MM25: It’s a Miserable Life - The Films of RW Fassbinder
Added 2024-06-19 11:00:12 +0000 UTCHesse and Will are joined by Eddie from the Extended Clip podcast to talk the tender and merciless work of German New Wave master RW Fassbinder with two searing films. In Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, a beautiful and unlikely romance between a Moroccan guest worker and an elderly German woman is threatened by the suffocating prejudice of German society, and In A Year With 13 Moons, a transgender woman takes stock of her life and attempts to reconnect with her past. In both films Fassbinder uses the genres of melodrama and tragedy as vessels for his unique mastery of style and deeply personal exegesis of love, guilt and pain.
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Adam brings absolutely nothing.
Kelley Schei
2024-07-02 02:42:57 +0000 UTCThis episode fucked me up. Something resonated with me thinking of PKD. Definitely giving this a relisten when I have time.
EaZy E
2024-07-01 11:25:01 +0000 UTCSuicide is the band, the song is Frankie Teardrop
awwwwwwww
2024-06-26 03:52:56 +0000 UTCWho is Suicide by?
Morgan Roeser
2024-06-26 01:13:18 +0000 UTCWanted to shout out Fassbinder’s excellent sci-fi film World on a Wire in here to those digging in to his filmography.
Seb
2024-06-24 15:18:52 +0000 UTCI disagree that Michael Haneke is totally humorless, Benny’s Video is one of the funniest movies of all time, and The Piano Teacher has the scene of Isabelle Hupert pissing next to a couple making out in a car.
Justice Hainsworth
2024-06-23 12:14:05 +0000 UTCWow, the racist Germans accusing Arab men of being lazy rapists, is this movie set in 2024!? Disgusting that a European colonial power (NATO is neocolonial) in 2024 still thinks the same thing about proud Arab & Muslim people.
Donelle Thomas
2024-06-22 02:22:20 +0000 UTCI am so glad that despite my last name, I ended up more influenced by the Irish & Spanish genes from my family. My siblings are both true Germans, & thus miserable. My sis is a soulless former yuppie, my brother is far worse, a self-hating drug addict who loves Joe Biden & all the shit-lib wars (despite or because of being bullied by everyone growing up? I really can't say) who is obsessed with killing dirty Russkies & shouting down anyone who can't agree with his Black/White view of reality . . . He lost the only half-decent job he ever had by threatening to murder a MAGA CHUD co-worker who had fun trolling him, but acts like the worst MAGAts if you don't endorse & support his every sad delusions.
Mark Schneider
2024-06-21 23:10:15 +0000 UTCI’m dating a guy whos friends don’t like me and this episode made me feel a lot better
lunchables
2024-06-21 16:28:09 +0000 UTCToo many normies found out about it
Justin
2024-06-21 13:36:54 +0000 UTCHopefully next to be deeply analysed on Movie Mindset: The music video for Knights Of Cydonia
Antipaganda
2024-06-21 03:59:54 +0000 UTCWait, what's wrong with Every Frame A Painting now?
Antipaganda
2024-06-21 03:53:20 +0000 UTCThank you for the lovely comments. This was a blast to record
Extended Clip
2024-06-21 03:20:20 +0000 UTCI listen to a few different podcasts about movies, and none of them are talking about the kinds of movies that this show has been doing. Thank you for helping me be cultured 🤓
Tim O'
2024-06-21 03:17:56 +0000 UTCEarlier this year I went to a pretty packed screening of 13 Moons, and I really don’t think half the audience knew what they were in for. Absolute silence as everyone filed out at the end. Probably the best Movie Mindset episode yet. Let’s get us some Chantal Akerman slop next!
Alex
2024-06-21 02:13:14 +0000 UTCEddie was a terrific guest, he brought the insight and the laughs in equal measure
Chris
2024-06-21 02:06:46 +0000 UTCAs someone who listens to a ton of film podcasts, this is one of the most thoughtful discussions of a filmmaker I’ve heard in a long time. Hesse has clearly spent a long time thinking about RWF, and it fucking shows. Probably my favorite Movie Mindset so far.
Stephen David Miller
2024-06-21 01:38:55 +0000 UTCTake it easy, Shakespeare
Chris T
2024-06-21 00:54:22 +0000 UTCcouldve mentioned that all those "sad and fucked up" things being said in 13 moons are quotes from schopenhauer
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-21 00:34:07 +0000 UTCwatch 8 hours dont make a day
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-21 00:12:24 +0000 UTCthats slandering Lola but whatever ... crazy how many elements of production fassbinder handled in 13 moons i think he got like 6 or 7 credits
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-21 00:09:50 +0000 UTCobviously both emmi and elvira are supposed to represent fassbinder ... with ali and the guy in 13 moons possibly also representing fassbinder ... and of couse almost every other character also representing fassbinder
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-21 00:07:36 +0000 UTCOn the first movie, when one of you mentioned that Germans don’t see Arabs as people, I thought this was a movie that just came out this year.
Eric Herde
2024-06-20 22:09:12 +0000 UTCI’ve literally re-upped just for movie mindset. Please continue this immaculate content and the more movie stuff you do the better.
Fr0id
2024-06-20 21:52:04 +0000 UTCNot if they insist on pronouncing “Fassbinder” that way
Ekaterina Sedia
2024-06-20 21:48:59 +0000 UTCHesse is absolutely correct about In A Year With 13 Moons being the best Fassbinder film!
Ekaterina Sedia
2024-06-20 21:47:55 +0000 UTCI just want to say, Hesse, Will, your excellent guest Eddie - this is maybe the best MM episode, and I've liked them all. I tend to be partial to the ones that cover my favorite films, like the Hawks eps, but I was driving around today, slinging deliveries in my lil midwest town, just completely rapt and deeply moved especially by Hesse's commentary, especially concerning 13 MOONS. Sometimes, Hesse you will make an offhand remark that suggests you think you're rambling - and as someone with incurable mic fright, I deeply identify with that - but I couldn't disagree more. Fassbinder's body of work is almost impossibly layered in such a way that, to do them justice, you're compelled to talk about concepts and abstractions that are so slippery that you almost HAVE to ramble. All these shifting perspectives, these spaces that are claustrophobic and/or comforting, characters having feelings about feelings ABOUT feelings. IN A YEAR OF 13 MOONS is, obviously, not a film you can just throw on and chill with, but you all really made it come to life in this MM episode. And that's all any of us can ask for, out in Chapo movieland.
Rohmer Simpson
2024-06-20 21:41:52 +0000 UTCDr. Caligari mentioned
Bradlei Smith
2024-06-20 20:15:56 +0000 UTCOpen up your FassBINDERS to today’s lesson.
Nicole Veneto
2024-06-20 17:41:19 +0000 UTCChapo isn't allowed to discuss politics anymore because of woke
Rohmer Simpson
2024-06-20 17:28:48 +0000 UTCI signed up for Chapo, not movie mindset. I guess there isn’t any political content to discuss anymore?
Dogface Reilly
2024-06-20 16:32:35 +0000 UTChappiest german man
Fingerless
2024-06-20 14:14:56 +0000 UTCI think the comedic bit at the end of 13 MOONS is something every would-be suicide has thought about: there is a pure stupid hilarity to the fact that if you take enough pills, you cut your wrists right, you get the belt perfectly cinched around the doorknob – suddenly your body reverts to property of the state, it's a matter for the police, the doctors, and the recordkeepers, everything about the flesh-cage that made you need to die is suddenly a stupid, inert object that has to be cleaned up and scooped out and either dressed up like you're in a school play or shoved in an oven. None of it's "you" anymore, none of that has anything to do with you, and in a single instant you revert from the tragedy of a human life ending to a goofy fucking bureaucratic prop. And I think that's particularly important here, because the way I take the Anton arc isn't antisemitism (maybe Fassbinder did, I dunno), it's a deeply black-humored analogy for the way that the German state by the 1970s had managed to invert real history such that IT was the victim of the Nazis, IT was the poor helpless creature overcome by vicious brutes, GERMANY was the true subject of Hitlerian "trauma," and thus GERMANY was to be allowed whatever form its "grieving" and "healing" might require (like, say, creating the Gehlen Organization) – all at a time when, and I feel pretty confident Fassbinder would've been aware of this, there were more Nazis working in a number of West German government ministries than there were *during the Third Reich*.
Michael S. Judge
2024-06-20 12:20:03 +0000 UTCAnother great episode but please let your guests speak more.
Yeah but in my defense
2024-06-20 11:51:52 +0000 UTCThanks for introducing me to RWF. I found Ali really amazing and touching.
Luna Zeidner
2024-06-20 10:48:33 +0000 UTCthe 1982 golden lion film by wenders is "the state of things" ... for sure not an "accessible" movie and pretty damn good ... carne probably just wanted querelle to win bcs its a gay french book
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-20 09:13:22 +0000 UTCThe late, great RW Fass-binder - Yuv hearda dis guy?
Whucko Jaang
2024-06-20 00:39:49 +0000 UTCThat slaughterhouse movie in question toward the end IS Hollis Frampton, Autumnal Equinox
awwwwwwww
2024-06-19 22:10:42 +0000 UTCDid we have a Pasolini episode last season?
Ian
2024-06-19 22:07:55 +0000 UTCFassbinders Full of Women
Rohmer Simpson
2024-06-19 20:05:44 +0000 UTCHesse never apologize! I can’t remember another podcast of any kind that ever gave Fassbinder his due, context-wise. Kudos on that. Fassbinder’s early films are cool but you could absolutely detect a “before he discovered Sirk” and “after” like that joke about how anyone can pinpoint the exact moment when David Gordon Green started smoking weed. (But in a good way.)
Rohmer Simpson
2024-06-19 19:48:29 +0000 UTCWhat's the issue w/ Every Frame a Painting?
Sam Ray
2024-06-19 19:35:22 +0000 UTCI watched bitter tears of petra von kant recently!! it was so good im excited to watch these ones
Ipota
2024-06-19 19:26:37 +0000 UTCRW Fassbinder is as good as it gets. Don’t sleep on Satan’s Brew, Mother Küster’s Trip to Heaven, Berlin Alexanderplatz, or Eight Hours Don’t Make a Day. I wouldn’t say his politics are incoherent though. He’s just deeply critical of all existing political currents, as he was of himself.
Chase Padusniak
2024-06-19 18:39:15 +0000 UTCWhenever I see Sirk's "All That Heaven Allows," I'm charmed that it's Reagan's former Belles with Rock Hudson and Jane Wyman. Don't know what it means, but I like it.
Leebos
2024-06-19 18:29:46 +0000 UTCOnce again I am demanding the Chapo coastal elite give the working man what he craves - Movie Mindset: Shrek! The proletariat demands to be acknowledged!
Smooth Shrek
2024-06-19 17:41:57 +0000 UTCThis a beautiful episode. Thank you.
Matt Kimlinger
2024-06-19 17:37:51 +0000 UTCif you return to Fassbinder for a later episode I'd love to hear Will and Hesse's response to Chinese Roulette, much more of a dark comedy
Matthew Perpetua
2024-06-19 14:26:58 +0000 UTCOne more plug for Third Generation as the ultimate dirtbag film
George Lochinski
2024-06-19 13:11:42 +0000 UTCGlad Merchant of the Four Seasons was brought up. That film is incredible
Here, Try This
2024-06-19 12:06:11 +0000 UTCMasterful intro, Hesse. I’m signing up for your class
Brent
2024-06-19 11:58:20 +0000 UTCYou guys should think about doing Ozu next. It's no big surprise German filmmakers like wim wenders were so preoccupied with the way he responded to WW2.
Anya Ciccone
2024-06-19 11:48:35 +0000 UTChell yes! wish i could be talking on this pod about RWF 🥲
Alexander Fuchs
2024-06-19 11:20:11 +0000 UTC
