PATREON EXCLUSIVE: Examining The Criticism Of Ex Porn Star Jenna Jameson

She was growing up as a white trash. She was on the path to became a prostitute, but since she was very attractive she made it in the porn. She is probably smarter than average porn girl so she made big money. I think no, she was not a victim of two men, but a product of many circumstances. Why is she now going down MeToo rute? Isn’t it obvious? Old woman can’t live in mens universe. Like porn stars do, for example. She must live in woman and children universe. She needs respect and appreciation. Her being groomed by two evil men is probably bullshit. She deserves what she deserves. Society has its norms. She profited on exploiting society norms. Respect is not what she deserves, mkay? MeTooing ex porn stars is not acceptable without undeniable evidence. It is enormous claim and needs enormous evidence.

Looking at her Wikipedia page, she grew up in Nevada, where the age of consent is 16. So there is no statutory rape in play. However, it does look like there MAY have been true rape, but it's her word against his, and looking at her choices, I'm not so sure. Here is a blurb from her Wiki: Early life Jenna Marie Massoli was born on April 9, 1974,[16] in Las Vegas, Nevada. Her father, Laurence Henry Massoli, was a police officer at the Las Vegas Sheriff's Department and program director for KSNV-DT. Her mother, Judith Brooke Hunt, was a Las Vegas showgirl who danced in the Folies Bergère show at the Tropicana Resort & Casino.[1][17] Her mother died of melanoma on February 20, 1976, two months before her daughter's second birthday.[18] The cancer treatments bankrupted the family and they relocated in Nevada, Arizona and Montana, usually living in a trailer home or with her paternal grandmother. She and her older brother Tony were raised Catholic,[19][20] though they were essentially left to parent each other.[21] Jameson was a frequent entrant in beauty pageants as a child and enrolled in ballet classes throughout her childhood.[22] In a featurette on the Zombie Strippers DVD, Jameson indicates she trained in dance for fifteen years.[citation needed] Jameson wrote in her autobiography that in October 1990, when she was 16 years old and while the family was living on a cattle ranch in Fromberg, Montana, she was beaten with rocks and gang raped by four boys after a football game at Fromberg High School. The incident began after she attempted to hitchhike home and that she entered the car of the four boys while believing that she would be driven to her home. She reported being raped a second time while still 16 by "Preacher", her boyfriend Jack's biker uncle.[19] Preacher has denied the rape ever occurred.[23] Rather than tell her father, she left home and moved in with Jack in her first serious relationship.[18][24] Jack was a tattoo artist and gave her the first of a series of tattoos, one of which would become her trademark tattoo, two hearts on her right buttock.[5] According to E!, her brother Tony, who later owned a tattoo parlor himself,[1] added the inscription "Heart Breaker".[1][18]

William Mullen

Even handed and charitable in intent, as I have come to expect. For the most part, I agree with your interpretation. However, something occurs to me in this specific case. Of course grooming and brainwashing are a bad thing, and the overall message is well taken. But was SHE groomed? Here I am less convinced. She was 16 and banging her bf and his father. Not sure I see grooming here (though there is a possibility). 16 is age of consent in many states and countries (inc. Australia). So is this actually a case of psychological pressure and grooming? Or is it a typically promiscuous modern "woman" now looking to misdirect blame and tying it to a story that allows her to attack anyone who dares question it? Given her age at the time and my own cynicism, I lean towards the latter.

William Mullen

I would give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume she's matured and grown in ways that make her view her old lifestyle differently. This topic hits home for me, because I invested too much time into porn when I was younger, leading to a lack of motivation to learn social skills in real dating. I feel empathy for users and performers of porn, because I believe it's an unhealthy fix for both, and it can take years to work out it's actually not what we wanted after all. You mentioned she still models? I think that's the only hypocrisy I see. She deserves the money IMO, it's not a particularly healthy workplace. Full blame goes to the father/son. Those comments likely all come from porn users, not to judge the use of porn, but it may provoke the commenters to defend their use. There's also a possible resentment from porn users, many likely have trouble with women, and see a performer who made a lot of money as being someone to resent no matter what.

I believe you're correct there. However, I think that about 2/3 of abuse perpetrators were victims themselves earlier on. Sorry I can't cite that stat, I heard it in conversation from someone in the foster care industry. This may mean that although only a small portion of victims later turn into perpetrators, they can sometimes make up the majority of that group making it stand out.

Agreed. Fair analysis bud, thanks.

Blair

The notion that victims of childhood abuse are likely to pass on the abuse, is not true. Only a minority do, the rest know what it is like to be on the receiving end, and they DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT TO OTHERS!!! They would tend to be less confident for example, and some do not fully recover. But only a minority abuse others.

That’s what I thought about it too. She was probably trying to turn lemons into lemonade.

Kyle Worden

The question you posed about her keeping the money from years in the business.: Early in your video you mentioned one of the responses to her tweet was to the effect of, “When will women start taking responsibility for their own actions?” That same statement holds true for the guys who gave her their money to see her flesh. They are responsible for their own actions in giving it to her. So, yes, she keeps her money. Now, going forward, if she has ethical problems with the “industry”, then she has two options; make it better, be the change she wants, or, get out. As for her original tweet, I agree with you that at the age of 16 she didn’t have a lot of agency in her situation; but not none. She could have left the guy if she had been made to have sex with his father. She could have gone to the cops at any point because it was statutory rape with either the boyfriend or his father. At 16 she knew she had options. If, on the other hand, she had been much younger, she might not have known that it was rape, only that something wasn’t ‘right’. But, at the age of 16 she had options. She chose not to come invoke any of them. I agree with you that at that age she was being manipulated into her lifestyle but, no one is innocent here. Everyone is responsible for their own actions in their lives.

Hey Mark, sent you a PM to clear it up :)

Alexander Grace

I am against the over sexualization of girls at a young age because I think it twists their minds and sets them down a path of failed relationships and emotional instability that they rarely can come out of without therapy. I haven’t met one yet where that hasn’t been the case. That said, I read a tiny bit of her history. Not sure what all is truth, but there seemed to be many more issues than just the grooming from her boyfriends dad father- issues in her own family, drug use, etc. If she made that post though, maybe she has been trying to come to terms with her life and past. Maybe she has been seeing therapist. Maybe despite her financial success she realized she still wasn’t happy and was still messed in head. It’s not exactly uncommon to get older and look back on your financial success, career success, etc. to realize that you missed out on the most important things in life- true friends, family, personal growth and development, etc. It’s possible If she truly was groomed in such a horrible way, she first used building her porn career as a way of trying to take control back of her life - on her own terms - but was so stunted emotionally she didn’t know how to so in a healthy way. As for the money she earned throughout her career. I didn’t do much digging so I have no idea how she has actually used that money. Maybe she has done good things with it. Maybe she has structured her own company in a way that protects women in the industry who want to stay. Then again, maybe her own actions have been just as bad as those who groomed her. I don’t know enough to say, and given that lack of info - I too can see a lot of valid arguments from many different perspectives.

Talk about "not accurately reflecting reality." Regarding your comment about "Conservatives" or “the Right" sometimes going too far with the concept of personal responsibility. I don't know what conservatism is like in AU. I live in the US. The idea that Conservatives/the Right are so rigid and ill informed, so as to have no compassion, understanding or appreciation for the psychological damage/brain washing suffered by a victim of sexual abuse and their inability to make clear moral choices in life, is a bit shocking to me. I assumed you were more informed and fair minded than that. (Yes, I know you said “sometimes” but you singled out Conservatives.) In the US I've met many people who believe that Conservatives are the same as the caricatures of conservatives (and Christians) that they see on TV and in movies. That is absurd. I feel that you are reinforcing that mocking stereotype through your choice in words. I know your choose your words carefully. I think it would have been more reasonable to use the word “people” instead of Conservatives/the Right. It certainly would have been more accurate.