PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Should single men move to Moscow?
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Fertility issues (with the men) have been the main factor - very bad luck - and my ex BF could have fixed his issue but never did and that was intolerable. Plus he refused to believe he was the problem despite multiple tests. I stayed with him far too long bc I am too loyal (& sunk cost fallacy). But I could no longer respect him after that, & honestly I shouldn’t ever have dated him. I’ve seriously considered single motherhood but I’ve never wanted that and it wouldn’t be easy with a large family like I want. Fathers are too important. But I have myself on a schedule and I’ll be going that route if I don’t meet someone soon. Ideally via coparenting of some sort. Definitely would have to be a known donor with the kids seeing dad once a year minimum. I have a good list of potential donors at least!
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 04:44:25 +0000 UTC@Peter - My prompt starts: "Here is a response from someone that I would like translated -- the very first part references an interaction between you and I in another chat session: ... "
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 03:49:52 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Your situation DOES appear QUITE unique: Usually it is the other way round. What do those men who want to commit, want to commit to, if NOT family? Also, would you ever consider single parenthood?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 03:19:02 +0000 UTCMy peers, my family & my husband all wanted me to wait & pursue career above all. I have no problem finding men who want to commit, but men who want children as much as I do are rare. I will not marry again until I am pregnant!
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:46:14 +0000 UTC@Louis & @Eric Linden - The problem and complication is that "what women REALLY want" is almost impossible to determine independent of what they have been CONDITIONED to THINK that they want. As someone once said here, the ONLY thing one can say for sure about what modern women want is that they should fit in with what is SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE. Because the loud squeaky wheels of Feminist extroverts are mostly what women hear (via the mechanisms of media and public policy), then any TRULY intrinsic desires that they WOULD have had, have succumbed to the will of the "Sisterhood". Common sense should tell anyone that, being biological reproductive creatures shaped by evolutionary forces, it would make VERY LITTLE sense for MOST women (and men) to NOT have an innate drive to have children -- it is a genetic imperative. Unfortunately there are other evolutionary forces at play as well that seemingly have the capacity to override the reproductive imperative -- keep in mind the ALSO evolutionary "Sapiens" aspect of our natures -- our CONSCIOUSNESS: If someone were truly CONSCIOUSLY made to believe that having children was unimportant, unnecessary, unfashionable or unwise (perhaps because they're not competent to raise them), then they would be FULLY capable of WILLFULLY deciding NOT to, despite any biological urge UNCONSCIOUSLY felt.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 07:03:19 +0000 UTC@Louis - Agreed. "Flawless features" beauty for men was sold to women (probably by myopic gynocentric-obsessed Feminists). All else is the result of social indoctrination, for which ALL women are susceptible to SOME degree. Male 'beauty" is likely a misnomer -- the term USED to be "handsomeness" until fairly recently, and encapsulated MANY non-beauty attributes, including strength, height, charisma, wit, intelligence, confidence, competence, etc. I know Alexander has bills to pay, but his inclusion of ads for male "skincare routines" always rubs be the wrong way.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 05:30:40 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Actually I said that FEMINISM has androcentric lifestyle standards (and gynocentric beauty standards), not actual REAL women.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 05:18:15 +0000 UTCThese days Western women in general don’t want kids in their early 20s. But most women who don’t have kids yet start feeling the urge between 30 and 40. There is also a lot of societal pressure to get their career going first. Social contagion and emotions play a big part; but women are also maturing much later than they used to.
Eric Linden
2024-10-21 03:48:37 +0000 UTCI don't believe you Alex. You are claiming that everybody(both men and women) want kids and the ones who do, this is how women really want and men offering this can regain their value in the dating market ... Statistically speaking, both women and men stay single(and women by choice). AND childless. And especially for women, you are saying that this delusion is passively making them miss their shot at their hidden life goal of having kids? BS like I was saying in 2024 I believe very few women really want kids. Especially women have less time to have kids biologically speaking than men. And YES I have seen many women who ended up boss bitches(true office dictators) and everybody around them included themselves had a miserable time. They were still grinding on and would not give this up to any cost for one simple reason; MONEY. A woman in a position of leadership and power, in most cases from my experience, is a bad fit. I refuse to believe it is always so but I have yet to see a competent female leader ... It's like a fish trying to survive at land. Of course the job market even lowers the bar to make them succeed but it's such a struggle for everybody. Like it's not nurturing and emotions what you need from a leader. But proper logics and decision based on facts ...
Louis
2024-10-20 11:31:07 +0000 UTCHow did you prompt that.. irs actually pretty good. I‘m considering using it. Though it def lacks my style. that might be good or bad 😝.
Peter
2024-10-20 06:24:56 +0000 UTCAll due respect I think this is a myth that on average women are more physically attractive than men. It's just that value of a woman(in society) is more measured toward her beauty and youth(so looks) rather than her achievements like men. No man is ever going to care how much money a woman makes or how many degrees that she has. But everybody will care about how young and pretty she is ... That probably is why male models make on average a lot less than their female counterparts; cause it's an industry based on looks. Like the looks of a man is a lot less valued than the looks of a woman. Similarly in an industry that is geared toward achievements(say UFC), you can see that the top female MMA fighters don't make nearly as much as the males in there(i.e. Ronda Rousey vs Connor Mcgregor).
Louis
2024-10-20 01:39:20 +0000 UTC@Joseph Omega- I don’t think women have androcentric lifestyle desires or standards. For example, women in general continue to want a bigger house as they get older, even when the kids move out. Men in general want to downsize as they get older to simplify their lives.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 21:07:37 +0000 UTC@Peter - I thought you might be interested in hearing how ChatGPT translated your previous message (to whose points I DO agree 👍): "It's intriguing—I hadn't fully seen your prior exchange, but I think my perspective aligns with it somewhat. I've often mentioned that after the death of the soul, the physical body soon follows. I realize now that I misused the term 'femicide,' and it's often misused generally. I think the intent behind the violence isn't necessarily because the victim is female, but rather because they are a weaker intimate partner who often happens to be a woman. However, GPT labels this as 'femicide' which seems to follow a 'woke' narrative, while 'androcide' isn't considered similarly, even though men face similar issues. The criteria applied are uneven. GPT defends the use of 'femicide' by indicating that male suicide is an unintended form of self-harm, but I would argue that the causality in male-targeted hate is more direct and linear. The societal and cultural disdain towards men, encapsulated in phrases like 'patriarchy' and 'kill all men,' leads to what could be described as a 'spiritual death,' which is metaphorically akin to pulling the trigger through a series of intermediate steps. GPT is correct that there needs to be a direct gender-based intention behind the term 'femicide.' Thus, a term like 'systematic unintentional physiological violence against men' might be more appropriate, capturing the broader, more nuanced forms of violence that men endure without the direct intent to kill based on gender alone."
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 07:19:12 +0000 UTCInteresting (i hadnt fully seen your back and forth. But even before reading it or think it’s the same. The answer i write is iterative because I was reading and switching back and forth) I have often said in the past that after death of the soul the body is soon to follow. I definitely feel, Femicide was used wrong by me (in my comment, 🫣 the media language has gotten to me..)and is used wrong ly in general. . Because the intent doesn’t seem tobe specific because its female. “Its towards a weak intimate partner “ that happens to be “a woman “ in many cases. But gpt is again woke in saying femicide is appreciate (while adrocide is not). because its an issue mostly facing women, but the same criteria doesn’t apply for men. Gpt defends the use of the term becau male suice in unintended self harm but i would argue the causality is far more direct and linear. Intentionally hate in MEN, not the act but directly MEN. Patriarchy / kill all men / etc etc, which leads to direct spiritual death and that is virtually the same thing as pulling the trigger with inbetween steps. Ahh you managed to twist GOTs arm to Application to Male Suicides Due to Domestic Abuse: Intentionality: If men are driven to suicide as a direct result of domestic abuse, and if this is part of a broader pattern targeting men due to their gender, the term might warrant consideration. Gpt is right about using femicide and focusing on it is exclusionary to male suffering. In conclusion. I can’t believe that we live in a world where actual advocacy for men is needed as much in the 50s for women. Where women were openly portrayed as inferior or stupid etc Sad sad sad. If The recalibration took 40 years for feminism (i dislike that term so much) i wonder if it will take society another 40 years to start advocating for men. Hopefully NOT in the retaliatory manner that feminists have taken.
Peter
2024-10-19 06:30:49 +0000 UTC@Louis - 👍 As in the world of finance, the sexual marketplace is in dire need of a "correction".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 04:17:44 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - That seems rather unusual -- were you discouraged by your peers? Or was it the restriction imposed by Hypergamy towards non-committal Chads?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-18 18:08:52 +0000 UTC@Louis I’ve always wanted a big family above all, and I always wanted to start as young as possible. But no one else supported me in that. So even if you are a young woman who wants kids, our society is not set up for it anymore, as you pointed out, and it’s difficult to find men who are willing to make the sacrifices necessary to have children young.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-18 13:46:17 +0000 UTC@Louis - I also used to blame Feminism and the rise of Gynocentricity as THE major factor influencing declining birth rates worldwide -- the effects SHOULD therefore be MUCH higher in "Western" countries. Yet we all hear about the birth rates in East Asian countries being among the very lowest in the world. This never made much sense to me until I heard an interesting take on the topic from Malcome and Simone Collins on their podcast called "The Hope Crisis: People Are Not Having Kids Because They Don't Want a Future": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tauryUSa4lk For those who prefer to read a summary of the 47 minute video, you can check this out: https://chatgpt.com/share/67122f68-13ac-800a-9dac-8f406408f826 Note the list at the end. I now think that, although the TRIGGERS for the declining birthrates may differ from one civilization to the other (in the "West" it may STILL indeed be the rise of Feminist Ideology, but in the East it may be the rise of Authoritarianism), it is the END RESULT of either trigger (individual hopelessness) that seems the proximate cause -- though the spread of the malaise DOES seem to be exacerbated greatly through social media. In the "South", where neither trigger is yet as prevalent (and/or social media is not yet as overwhelmingly ubiquitous), the birthrates remain amazingly high (Nigeria, Anogola, the DRC, etc.).
Joseph Omega
2024-10-18 10:07:08 +0000 UTC@Louis & Eric Linden - I don't see why you BOTH can't be correct: Granted in "Western Society" the birthrates are falling, while the culture is mutating due to the influence of a continuing flow of immigrants. Simultaneously, the few non-immigrant women willing to have children do so at older ages, at the same time that their youthful attractiveness fades and their reliance on the dopamine hit from societal influences diminishes. I still suspect there is a "sweet spot" that may peak somewhere between 25 and 30.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-18 09:03:21 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Thanks for the candid response. I think it would be VERY useful indeed for men to know FOR SURE that women's tastes in physical attractiveness is mutable. For women to believe that the vast number of males are below average in attractiveness makes VERY little evolutionary or even statistical sense. The ONLY viable explanation I can see for such a conceptually BIZARRE opinion would be social indoctrination. I speculate that the very concept of "physical beauty" (in the "flawless features" sense of the word) applied to men may be a rather recent product of simple minded Feminist rationalization -- a strange dialectic tension where androcentric LIFESTYLE standards coexist alongside gynocentric BEAUTY standards.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-18 08:34:07 +0000 UTC@Louis - Wow. Now you're looping immigration and taxes into your argument. I probably agree with you on most of what you think about the big picture. For that, you need to vote and convince others to vote your way. As far as individual women go, I agree that in general young women don't want to work less and take care of children. But as they get older, they are more likely to want that. You're right that social media isn't helping. If you are looking for that in your life, look for someone older but not past child bearing age. The best we can do as individuals is listen to the advise of people like AG, do your best to find a high quality woman, and raise good kids who will help the world to reverse these trends.
Eric Linden
2024-10-17 02:08:35 +0000 UTCInsane demand and options have just made them pickier. It's like in some municipalities here in Canada. Like in Toronto, a granny's bungalow full of cockroaches is worth millions. Same house brand new back in the 50s was worth less than $100k. Why do people ask for a lottery jackpot for their house? Because they can ... Back in the 50s, a decent nice guy with a job was enough. Now dude needs EVERYTHING(great looks, height, money, great social circle, etc.). And last but not least(this is borrowed from Wheat Waffle's blackpill book) but most white women will only accept to date a white man. On top of that most modern women don't fancy giving you kids and raise them; ultimately insult to injury lol.
Louis
2024-10-17 01:12:12 +0000 UTCThis is a very good video. And it's true. The best years to live a fulfilling life such as by having kids, buy a house, a car, and find a loving companion was really from 1960-1990. After this, coincidentally, with the aftermath of feminism and explosion of social media and the web/mobile technologies, things have gone downhill VERY fast. Latest one for me(I live in Canada) is bottomless immigration which causes a job, healthcare, housing, transit, infrastructure crisis. Again nobody wants to admit it, but in my opinion the root cause of this problem is due to the aftermath of feminism and people just not having kids anymore(mainly women because let's face it like I was saying in 2024 statistically speaking very few women aspire to be stay at home moms). And yup this ultimately is the decline of society.
Louis
2024-10-17 01:05:36 +0000 UTCNot true. Statistically speaking, there are more single people than ever. Most women are single by choice while for most men, it isn't. Ultimately this breaks modern Western society so our governments outsource its young workforce with bottomless immigration ... which just compounds the problem. Like most young people these days may think they are contributing to society by paying their taxes ... but they aren't like their grandparents were doing by having kids. Western society is just ending up with an overabundance of old people and now lots of immigrants who do the same thing ...
Louis
2024-10-17 00:55:04 +0000 UTCI liked that comment, so yes, it definitely happens. I think I am too beauty/genetics oriented for that, but some beautiful women feel otherwise & I’ve definitely observed beautiful women falling in love with unattractive men who have a lot of other things going for them. The latter question is very difficult to answer because I’m still not sure to what extent I have been able to separate my objective and subjective views on beauty if indeed there is any meaningful difference as I truly believe I am the high arbiter of beauty. 😅 I think there must be some effect because I’m really against long hair on men, but I don’t know how much of that is because I personally think women should have really long hair and have a Rapunzel fetish myself. As for normie women who care about preselection and other social consensus, I would gather that they are substantially affected.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-16 15:12:17 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Yeah, loved the documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0HDHA
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 05:29:20 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - So that the dopamine hit from societal influences diminishes with time? There is sense to this. This suggests that there may be a "sweet spot" age within which both youth and insusceptibility are optimized.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 05:23:42 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Almost all of what you say is consistent with evolutionary psychology. What did you think about my contention concerning princesses and frogs? To what extent do you think women's tastes in male attractiveness is influenced by "societal fashion"?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 00:52:09 +0000 UTCI do think that if you discount age (in general men age better/wrinkles & volume loss in the face is much more flattering as is grey hair) women are overall more physically attractive. There are legitimately more extremely beautiful women than extremely beautiful men. I’m not even sure 10/10 men exist. But women should be willing to date down in terms of looks to compensate for this. Especially as other traits are just as important as looks.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 21:27:03 +0000 UTCHow old are you? Where are you located roughly?
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 21:22:46 +0000 UTCYes, we’re going through a genetic bottleneck now where only the dumb/welfare supported & those who really want children are reproducing, which may well have major effects on our evolution. Leftists are dying out too.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 21:21:29 +0000 UTC@Peter - I had to run this one through the translator as well -- I THINK I got your intent correct, so I will respond to what I BELIEVE you may be trying to say: I think the fears experienced by men might be more accurately described as "spiritual damage" (affecting ego or emotions), with "reputational damage" occurring if this becomes publicly known. This parallels the fears of "physical damage" (either physiological or sexual) that women face, where "reputational damage" can also arise if these incidents become public. In both cases, the reputational damage likely stems from the potential SHAME experienced by the victim and the resulting impact on their public image — either challenging men’s honor (and thus their egos) or women’s perceived purity (and their physical integrity). A bit akwardly expressed, but something like that at any rate. And nowadays, especially with the effective reduction or elimination of "slut shaming", gender-associated "reputational damage" has currently FAR more of an effect on men than on women. It would strike me as sad if, rather than recognizing the self-regulating importance of the threat of ALL "reputational damage", the culture moves instead towards the elimination of "simp shaming" or even "jerk shaming", in order to redress the gender imbalance. I suspect that there may be as many (or quite possibly MORE) male lives taken by suicide (possible "androcide"), the result of "spiritual death", as there are female lives taken by homocide (possible "femicide"), the result of "physiological death". Here is a rather long exchange with ChatGPT on the topic that ultimately leads to some VERY interesting conclusions: https://chatgpt.com/share/670e1ada-95a0-800a-8873-4c1bed06387d
Joseph Omega
2024-10-15 07:53:39 +0000 UTCIndeed i often used voice to text i meant to say distrain coming coming from women is scary. This permanent latent worry of society being on the end( and you purly on the basis of association) could end up being lumped into some societal pinyata. The pot feels like it could boil over , anytime. The latent permanent worry about the other sex doing you harm (for men by reputation destruction, from women physical violence) must be similar to what women experience when seeing open mouths misogyne. Except i havnt actually seen any cases of that classical viscious reputation destruction in person, bit femicide, (i find the word exaggerated and drama to describe tje death of a woman. Ad she was not killed BECAUSE she isba woman, just being a woman woman has a predisposition for Intamate partner violence. As men are more physical and more violent and their partners tend to be women. That said the IPV cases in lesbian relationships is frigging WILD
Peter
2024-10-14 18:13:02 +0000 UTCThey do, but not at age 20. And the age is getting later and later. There are nuances as well. This channel is about finding a high quality woman, unlike the ones in AG’s clips.
Eric Linden
2024-10-14 12:58:48 +0000 UTCHere is the link to the original TikTok video: https://www.tiktok.com/@colonelkickass69/video/7375598690364411168 I suspect it more likely displays a "ladies free night" meant to indirectly encourage rich Moscow Chads (and Simp hopefuls) to come in and spend loads of cash on gold-diggers. From what I understand, very VERY FEW Moscovites with ANY money allow themselves to get drafted into the war in Ukraine -- this is not WWII.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-14 00:29:41 +0000 UTCYeah sadly the people like me who want to continue their family's legacy will be collateral damage in all this lol. From women having insane standards and holding off to for Mr Chad that they'll never get to people just not wanting to raise kids. Like Alex is saying, we live in a bubble ... when it will burst it will be too late for our generation sadly.
Louis
2024-10-14 00:06:22 +0000 UTC@Peter - Except for your use of the word "femincide" (which sounds more like "femicide"), did you mean to type "misandry" rather than "mysogeny" (which sounds more like "misogyny")? Or was your first sentence supposed to be "Seeing the open distain FOR women is scary"?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-13 23:58:05 +0000 UTC@Peter - A little off topic, but YES INDEED! 👍👍👍 Next stop: Ship catch (on second tower?).
Joseph Omega
2024-10-13 23:45:15 +0000 UTCIn the age of massively dropping fertility rates all over the world I don't see how you can talk about "women wanting a family". A lot of them even if considering this, prefer to get a dog or a couple of dogs which makes their "family" and Instagram material for years until they become infertile.
Piotr K.
2024-10-13 22:54:43 +0000 UTCYou’d think that’d mean people would have kids when they actually want to 😅 hahaha. Maybe we need to experience a decline in population in order for society to restructure itself to make raising children much more rewarding than the ways it is now. I don’t enjoy partying or traveling, and even so, I don’t want kids.
Mack T
2024-10-13 16:23:39 +0000 UTCLike I think in 2024 very few women aspire to be a stay at home mom taking care of kids like back in the days to be honest. I'm sure Alex will argue that the feeling of being feminine with a man will drive this need in most women. But honestly I think the dopamine they get from social media will override it long shot.
Louis
2024-10-13 14:13:06 +0000 UTCAlex surprised me with that answer. I think another very important variable is who they want to partner and have kids with ... that's not any man in the West. And I'm not sure that this is true. Single childless people are on the rise. I think it's just the modern woman and the aftermath of feminism what we live in. Women and people in general don't do what they have to do like back in the days(such as raising a family). But what they want to(like travel the world and live the party life) with no accountability. That’s not unique to women too like I was saying. I have coworkers in their 60s and who are blowing all their accumulated cash on expensive vacations with the intent to leave nothing to their kids. Unlike back in the days for the traditional Western family where wealth was passed from generation to generation. Like I’m saying, people just do what they want to these days.
Louis
2024-10-13 14:08:41 +0000 UTCHappy starship test 5 and good catch!
Peter
2024-10-13 10:18:54 +0000 UTCSeeing the open distain from women is scary. Like that kind of scary, that a jewish person in Germany in the 1940, would understand Wondering if and when this pot will boil over Must be similar for mysogeny except there femincide happens on the reg. So scarier…
Peter
2024-10-13 06:31:24 +0000 UTCWhen we lose touch with the depth of our being all we see is the surface. When we think 'beauty' we think 'appearance'. Imagine instead we thought 'character'.
Steven
2024-10-13 04:55:12 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - The systems says 16, but I count 15. If they blocked you, then they've done the same for me.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-12 01:52:11 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Still, it is beneficial for men to remember that it is the CULTURE that cares that much about their appearance, and that women themselves have not INTRINSICALLY changed -- princesses are still QUITE capable of falling in love with FROGS, given the right conditions.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-12 00:44:46 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I agree. I was referring to the INITIAL attraction, not the long term -- which likely follows a more HABIT type model for the most part. As for "cheating", I think sexual attraction is more the factor for BOTH sexes. Hypergamy MAY affect divorce and breakups more though for BOTH sexes -- it's just that men possess a FAR higher degree of LOYALTY which tends to slow the initiation from their end.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 23:50:19 +0000 UTCWomen truly didn't used to care that much about appearance. Women have changed. They care now, and yes, they have become sexist.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 22:04:41 +0000 UTC@Joseph Omega - Regarding #4, I agree and disagree. When looking for a NEW relationship, I agree. While in a relationship, I disagree. While in a relationship, I don't think men are looking for something better. As far as the relationship is concerned, men are more dedicated to keep the current thing going. When cheating happens, men cheat for the physical and sex. Women cheat due to hypergamy.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 19:32:06 +0000 UTC@Joseph Omega - Just curious. AG's post right now says 11 comments, but I am counting a total of 10. Several hours ago it said 5 when I counted only 4. Is it off by one for you as well? Or maybe someone has me blocked.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 19:23:41 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I decided to add a FOURTH consideration above to the original list that is not commonly dealt with.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 19:07:19 +0000 UTC@Tomer Shamay - And rather than the culture moving towards women becoming LESS focused on physical appearance, it has instead, moved towards trying to make men MORE focused on making themselves physically attractive. This emphasis is in keeping with the ascendence of GYNOCENTRICITY and its natural emphasis on APPEARANCE as a measure of intrinsic worth.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 18:40:14 +0000 UTCAlexander; no: it won’t change overnight. I am that high value man; make more money, been more responsible - great credit, significant investment savings, in peak athletic shape. I still deal with entitlement & am struggling with where to lay the boundaries down and not break. I had 2 months of it going exceptionally well, and she trampled on me in one week. Crazy part: She admitted she’s not going to do better & women will approach me. They have, got grabbed on a cruise last month by one who was mad I ignored her, and it made her jealous to the point she looked for that woman. But these moments fleet by. That’s already forgotten.
Bill Washinski
2024-10-11 14:31:42 +0000 UTCFunny how the dating apps show both the delusion of today’s women, and their ability to market themselves and manipulate other’s perceptions.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 12:26:46 +0000 UTCVery good points all having to do with evolutionary psychology. Things have not always been the way they are now. Some of these things have changed over hundreds of years, while others change abruptly overnight.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 12:21:18 +0000 UTCI believe that there are VERY important considerations here that are RARELY openly discussed or even acknowledged: 1) Women want (and consider "hot") what THEY believe OTHER women want (and consider "hot") -- their psychology is almost WHOLEY a product of their "social conditioning" far FAR more than any INTRINSIC preferences (unlike for men). If Quasimodo (from The Hunchback of Notre-Dame) or Prince Adam (from Beauty and the Beast) or Erik (from The Phantom of the Opera) suddenly became fashionably desired by womenfolk, then THEY would OVERNIGHT be considered "hot". 2) Modern child-bearing age women are increasingly SCARED of having children because they are SCARED of f*cking them up as mothers (the way THEY think, or were TOLD, that THEY were f*cked up by their OWN parents). Their reluctance is seldom determined merely by the presence or absence of "real men". 3) For almost ALL of human history it is MEN who were the "prize" for MOST women because men have been the ones who possessed the ability to PROTECT and PROVIDE for them in a hostile world. In addition, women (as little girls) have traditionally ALWAYS been a LIABILITY due to their inability to produce TANGIBLE goods for their family and tribe -- hence the fact that the VAST majority of infanticide victims have ALWAYS been baby girls. Women being "the prize" is a relatively recent product of the "Troubadour" and "Courtly Love" era of Southwestern European and Arabic history: https://chatgpt.com/share/6708e691-ccc8-800a-9a9f-0a72da95d6b3 4) Both men AND women are HYPERGAMOUS -- it is just that women more tend to be hypergamous with respect to PHYSICAL attributes like height, income and strength, while men more tend to be hypergamous with respect to AESTHETIC attributes like moral, societal and spiritual worth. In essence, it is not that "opposites attract", but that "complements attract".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 09:09:30 +0000 UTCYou know thinking about it dating apps is a battle of aesthetics and women are just better at it. There are a lot of average looking guys that have subpar photos on their dating profiles while women are able to make them selves look a lot better than what they actually are. Of course the 80/20 split of attractiveness in men is more due to women's hypergamy than anything else but the dating apps really exasperate this. The battle of aesthetics is just always gonna be lost by men we just aren't as hyper fixated on it and we don't have the same innate sense for it as women do.
Tomer Shamay
2024-10-11 08:42:31 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - You may not need ALL men -- in the same way that they did not need ALL women to screw things up in the first place.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 07:56:59 +0000 UTCThere will always be Chads. There will always be simps. There will always be orbiters. No way you will ever get all men to come together to put things right.
Eric Linden
2024-10-11 05:20:52 +0000 UTCHoe flatiron
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