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526 - Free Parking feat. TrueAnon (5/25/21)

We’re joined by TrueAnon for a round table on Israel through two in-depth reading series. Can Americans have opinions on Israel and Palestine, despite it being outside our lived experiences? Is middle eastern peace calling out, siren-like, to Joe Biden? Find out inside.

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526 - Free Parking feat. TrueAnon (5/25/21)

Comments

Went back to this one. Pretty clairvoyant, especially ideas about the carpet bombing to destroy Hamas tunnels being a necessary condition of Israel “winning” in Gaza, and every victim of IDF murder being cast as the moral responsibility of Hamas/a human shield propaganda tactics. Both now being carried out to extreme extents :(

Dec

Speaking i*raeli wow you hasbarist are pathetic enough to post on Patreon. As someone whose family member’s murder is linked to an i*raeli i would say even worse. One bc i*raeli is a nationality like Australian. I don’t feel bad when a colonial nationality is made fun off.

this was hilarious, and idk about anyone else, but i really needed it. 🇵🇸

Lesley Anne Noelle

Marxism as in "workers unite" is a profoundly useless lens for Palestine. The history of Zionist settlement is fundamentally intertwined with European worker-centric utopianism, it's all absorbable by ethnocentric nationalism. Marxism as in "let's look at Israel's particular place in the global capitalist system, esp how its control over Palestinians makes it a security superpower" is more to the point. This is what Jeff Halper does in the brilliant War Against The People, and he's been proven 100% right so far.

philip podolsky

“Shouldn’t go overboard” and do something like overhearing some people speaking Israeli behind me In line as I start to think”filthy rentier fuckers how many Palestinian Children did you merc today”... yeah that would be bad.

Scot Forsythe

Put the articles you mention in the show notes you dinguses

Emily Curry

Idk what their version of Beltway Garage is but it needs to happen

Bobby Volcano

Liz and Matt OTP

Would you prefer another movie episode

Jaage

the class struggle is between israel and palestine, the entire episode is marxist

Joel

One of the best episodes

Woke Batou

Yes.

Melnorme

Bring up to any chud magatards who support Israel you me about the uss liberty.

Jared

Yes it is, along with Yemen, the two most clear cut genocides on this planet in modern time. The media won’t cover this if we don’t bring attention to it.

Jared

Oh I luv the the devil in metal. Sorry wrong podcast

Jonathan lees

Your bloody right about these bloody Australians mate jesus

Jonathan lees

Yes.

a clash of purple

Well, all any of us can do is further the cause of solidarity as much as we can, and hope that one day workers of the world will finally unite. But to be fair to the Chapo boys and TrueAnon, when Felix interviewed Mohammad Alsaafin they did discuss the status of Palestinian labor organizing.

a clash of purple

do we really need another fucking hour about Palestine on this podcast....?

Yeah the situation is fucked but there is definitely a way forward, and that is to split the unity between the Palestinian and Jewish israeli workers and the zionist capitalist class that ensures the continued apartheid of the Palestinians. That's why it's so important to highlight the class conflict inside Israel, to inform the tactics of the global left going forward, and to help us keep some goddamn optimism when it comes to these things.

Sebastian Wittekindt

What is there to say? The whole discourse or debate or whatever is pointless to begin with because no one can change anything about the situation in occupied Palestine. There's your analysis: the current state of affairs must continue no matter what because there is no alternative.

a clash of purple

yeah I agree with Sebastian. All of the chapos are very good at articulating sophisticated interpretations. Matt getting super academic and Felix breaking out of his irony to deliver criticism are some of my favorite parts of the show.

I guess it's only fun to talk about w/people for so long.. (hey maybe you can make a podcast and elaborate on the analysis!)

Peter T.

I’ve never understood why both Chapo and TrueAnon don’t lean more into the Marxist analysis that sometimes peeks out just a little bit, like when Liz is talking about the contradictions in the Israeli state. Like there’s so much more to be said about that and the class struggle in Israel and Palestine, but ya’ll always just tease it and then move on. Why??? Are we hogs too dumb? Do you not want to offend the socdems in the audience? Someone pls explain.

Sebastian Wittekindt

The brief moments it happened made me realize Liz x Cush is a weird, delightful combo. More pls

Bobby Volcano

Thank you for the annotation, Chris.

Juan Suarez


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