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Movie Mindset 01 - Tony Vision

Welcome to Movie Mindset! In this inaugural episode, Will and Hesse guide you through two of the collaborations between director Tony Scott and star Denzel Washington, Man on Fire (2004) & Deja Vu (2006). Join us as the ultimate auteur of the action-thriller meets the ultimate American leading man in these two propulsive explorations of justice, time, duty, depression, vengeance, destiny and sick-ass explosions.

Movie Mindset 01 - Tony Vision

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Wait. I just went back to confirm this. It is around 26 minutes. Denzel is meeting with the special unit after the autopsy of Claire. Confirming her suv had been stolen. “Solve her murder solve the bombing” On three different screens we see a woman in black lingerie. I find this fascinating. Was I tricked into being attracted to ladies?? What is the message?

Hardcore Virgin

Yeah but in airplane he at least doesn’t say smoking glue…he sniffs it etc…. I’ve seen ppl snort vodka smoke all sorts of stupid shit Eat full boxes of blood pressure medication whatever weird and old fashioned way to get high And I ain’t never saw no man snort hash Now I isn’t saying it’s impossible I’m just saying that … Well actually. You’re right. That’s good characterization. The sex god is a nerd and nerds like airplane and they’re not cool and they don’t do drugs and it would make sense that if he is riffing on a quote from airplane the sex god would make a mistake. The boy and girl on this episode should be ashamed of themselves. It took me writing this comment to realize that. I apologize for wasting not only your time. But mine. I love this episode.

Hardcore Virgin

I’m starting my journey through MM and this was a great first ep. It’s crazy how Scott’s films track enormous world events - Russian imperialism in crimson tide, the patriot act in enemy of the state, etc. his suicide was a tragic loss to cinema

mutism

Yes, these films are good. But more importantly, they are awful

This is how Janis Joplin feels

omg I need Will to watch Uptown Girls and for there to be a MM episode about it asap please. I vote Riding in Cars with Boys for a double feature Brittany Murphy ep…a girl can dream lol

Hannah Mosman

Wait didn't realize. Didn't realize that Jim Caviziel was playing himself in this film.

DukeNukem64x

17:10 okay watching this movie, I have been convinced.

DukeNukem64x

Finally listening to the 1st MM episode. Never watched any Tony movies, but I agree with the dunk on Ridley.

DukeNukem64x

Thanks for this- went on a Scott/Washington bender in our house and loved it. Ended with Unstoppable. Only thing- why is there a city of 750,000 people in Western PA? Anyway, thanks so much!

Goji

Great episode. Hate what you did to the terminator music at the end credits though. Garbage rendition of a sick movie song.

Lawson

The Desus and Mero Denzel interview is verrrrry cool this made me have to rewatch, hard recommend

Benjamin O Levine

Just watched man on fire. Jesus that movie made me go through every single emotion known to man. I don't know why I never watched it before.

Marcus Wrightus

I find your failure to get the “I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash” line as a reference to Airplane! disturbing

Nick Muscatiello

Rewatched Man On Fire and they forreal don’t make movies like that no more!the opening credits…every kill scene is him just torching people or places…Creasy keeps getting shot..I completely forgot how he was under arrest after the kidnapping…Denzel’s quiet confidence…Christopher Walken doing his best. A great film with a peaceful ending for Creasy.

Jordan Brewer

Deja Vu: “…The kind of happiness that could arouse envy in us exists only in the air we have breathed, among people we could have talked to, women who could have given themselves to us. In other words, our image of happiness is indissolubly bound up with the image of redemption…” Walter Benjamin

Daniel Epstein

What was with the scene in Deja Vu around 25 minutes in where Denzel and Val are standing around with a group talking shop while the camera swoops around with several cuts and in the background of each shot are computer monitors with women in lingerie in them. It feels like this was an era of movies that did easy-to-spot subliminal messaging.

pixelsnbits

Don’t know about that particular one, but a lot of trailers reuse scores from other movies yea

J.P. McD.

Wait does that Deja vu trailer have the music from the end of all the Saw movies? Also loved Hell on earth but I've been hyped for Movie Mindset since the announcement

Eamon Short

Talking about Bush era time capsules made me think of Jarhead, which is interesting to go back and watch. It's like at this turning point culturally.

greenboots

So sorry, I just went through this too. Highly recommend embracing movie mindset and watching as many movies as possible as a distraction from grief. <3

greenboots

This was perfect timing for me, I just did a big Tony marathon about a month ago. Man on Fire is one of my favourites of all time, but I was floored by the quality of every single thing in his filmography... I think Revenge and the Fan were at the bottom of my list, but still so good. Obviously he's the king of action movie spectacle but there is a level of skill and humanity in his movies that you never get from Bay or others like him. RIP to the legend

Zach G

Is it really that bizarre? Hitchcock was considered a maker of silly big-budget genre films by his contemporaries and his films are maybe the most analysed ever.

Arthur G. Pym

Zero Hour!, but yeah, definitely more a reference to Airplane! rather than the original

Jeremy

Elle Fanning was the child actor who dropped her doll in Deja Vu, did they mention this?

Eric Wiley

I think one of the main appeals of art criticism is that it could open you up to appreciate the care and craftsmanship put into something that you otherwise wouldn't notice. The genre of the piece in that case is kind of irrelevant.

Michael

one of the little things i caught during man on fire is the during the weapons purchase montage he they show him buying the rectal drug smuggling device with all the weapons and cell phones and a rocket launcher… and an ass pod. he knew then, that somehow, someway, something was going up someone’s ass and they probably weren’t gonna like it.

Matt Arthur

It's not my cup o' tea, but I can understand why people like silly, big-budget action movies. But to enjoy getting into the minutia of making them (unless you're a filmmaker yourself) let alone subjecting them to detailed analysis, and even then wanting to listen to others perform that analysis is so bizarre. Is there an audience for this sort of thing outside of a very small niche?

tysonw81

i agree there needs to be more a thesis of this is gonna reach its potential. it’s sorta woven through, but…

Nathan Explosion

Cole

Theme song is 👨🏻‍🍳😘

Brett Anders

I just got done watching these two movies for the first time (writing this before I listen to the episode, which I’ll probably do tomorrow), and I think Tony Scott loved kitsch even more than he loved explosions, and I think we can all agree that he loved explosions like Bill Clinton loves poontang. That hackneyed shot of the girl dropping her doll in Deja Vu is pure kitsch, such a hackneyed tear-jerker. The shots of Dakota Fanning swimming in Man on Fire border on Epsteinesque, as pedo as the volleyball game in Top Gun was gay. Well, maybe not that pedo, since that was a really, really homoerotic volleyball game, but they were still some creepy shots. I got a Karen Greenlee vibe when Washington looked at the body in the morgue, so maybe Scott had a thing for pushing sexual taboos. Was Scott behind the camera when Linda Lovelace shot the movie with the dog? It would be fitting. Fanning gave the only really good acting performance in these two movies. The woman playing her mother was a dime, I’d never seen her before. Casting Jesus (or whatever that guy’s name is, Jim Christ or however you spell it) as the villain in Deja Vu was clever, and having played Jesus and also being a religious nut job in his own right must make his agent get loads of calls for playing villains since everyone wants to cast Jesus as a villain.

Demented Avenger

she co-hosts seeking derangements, and it's a grand old time :)

our lady of reclaimed teeth

This needs to be corrected- The Hunger is 1000x gayer than Top Gun

Nicholas Abrams

Yo! Where can we hear more of Hess?

Nicolas Lemieux

we don't know his actual birth date but we're gonna pretend he made it to a round 20 and he's gonna have a great party

etienne

That sounds completely gut wrenching. fwiw this fellow slop fiend is sending you as much love as is feasible via the web at this time ❤️

drewb

listened to this episode bawling my face off organizing the end of my cat's life, two thumbs up

etienne

Will your the son my father wish he’d had

CJ DiVencenzo

Just popped in the Deja Vu Blu-ray that I received from a Netflix red envelope today. Watching incredible mid-00s trailers for a Mark Wahlberg football movie “Invincible”, a Kevin Costner swimming movie, and now The Prestige. And now the “YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR” piracy trailer holy shit!!

J.P. McD.

They call that the ol razzledazzle

Martin

OOT GOAT

J.P. McD.

He did time for our stories

Ben

Damn they really finessed us with the movie mindset ep huh

james

my favorite thing about MoF is that it gives no fucks about plot logic and the emotional logic is heightened to absurd levels. like the explosion at the club. the reaction of the crowd makes no sense, tony is portraying the reaction of his audience. how he wants us to feel while creasy rubs out this part of the brotherhood. it rules.

Nathan Explosion

this was great … lets fuckin goooo

Matthew

A long time ago my mom referred to smoking weed as "taking a snort" so maybe it's some sort of boomer slang?

Elbows Maginty

I put a little salt in to coffee along with cream and sugar it makes it taste better, you need to season everything

Casey Kiesling

when does felix get his spin off podcast

Reece Coren

Save our white daughters!!!

The wazzzzaaapp bud light dude

good podcast

Shawn Hayes

LMFAO you did not have the boys make a cover of lets all go to the lobby you sick sickos

Thomas Carroll

Oh fuck yes I'm so hype for this

Thomas Carroll

Always loved this trailer for deja vu https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khFEdsBEVU0&pp=ygUPZGVqYSB2dSB0cmFpbGVy

Aram Fingal

So good

Sam Schick

Wrong pódcast bud

Dylan Rich

I saw Man On Fire about a decade ago and I just realized that the entire time I was listening I was picturing "The Kingdom" as well. "Wait didn't the car blow up during a softball game?"

Gumbo Pie

not far enough in to see if you talked about this but Denzel is the one who likes to do weird shit to food right? Like if you're paying attention he'll be putting salt in his coffee or eating an orange like an apple, etc

Doug Cartel

Serious comment, I don't know any of the movies, but if there are any that star Jack Nicholson, we need a Branson Nicholson bit please thank you.

DukeNukem64x

No but really Uptown Girls really is a great film, you watch it trying to put your finger on what this Brittany Murphy / Dakota Fanning vehicle is - it’s absolutely not a romcom, it’s not exactly a coming of age movie, ultimately it’s Brittany Murphy’s mind palace in conversation with itself, soothing her own anxieties. Not literally, but that’s the vibe. It’s phenomenal.

Michael Carroll

Fuck anyone shitting on my Scotties, they hit and missed but always swung. Fuck all your bunting asses.

NoPrefect

Man, with the concentrated caucacity that is Radha Mitchell (literal actual human name "Radha Rani Amber Indigo Ananda Mitchell") as a mother...

NoPrefect

Don't do that!

Greg

Went to the optometrist and they told me I got that Tony/Tony Vision 😤

Dick Wolf

Looks like Hitler youth.

Nolan

So I’m supposed to believe Dakota Fanning is half Mexican.

Nolan

I’ve really been looking forward to this and it’s great. I love Tony Scott. Man on Fire is an incredible film and the style Scott cooked up there and with Deja Vu were cranked up to 11 for Domino (2007). Domino gets a ton of hate, but fuck ‘em, because I love it. Hesse is a fantastic co-host. Looking forward to the next episode.

Waffle Poet

Out of Time (2003) also feels like it could have been directed by Tony Scott. Fun to watch Denzel play a character that’s a sleaze ball.

Dean Painter

Hook it to my veins!

Eamonn Curley

Just a heads up the Pelham remake was dreadful. Travolta was funny in a cringe way.

Poppy Chulo

JC saw his bullet ridden car at the ferry. He didnt have a feeling. He knew!

Dank Spilf

I saw both of these films and Unstoppable somewhat recently. Although I wasn't big on Tony Scott beforehand, I thought they were all very good. Deja Vu in particular was excellent, I'm glad you picked that one, as much as I love Unstoppable. It's such a shame Scott died when he did, he was at the peak of his talent. Btw, is the Pelham 123 remake good? I haven't heard much about it

Gordon Schmidt

Dope… not gonna lie, this is the only one imma listen to. You can guess why, lol

Eater

Great episode. My one note is that, speaking as a Mexican national who has spent a lot of time with family in the country, the Mexican police, sadly, are about as bad as they’re portrayed in the movie. Mexico City’s level of violence is unrealistic, but many parts of central and northern Mexico law enforcement has so thoroughly been corrupted by organized crime that folks don’t call the police to report crimes. The movie is uncharitable, to say the least, to Mexico generally. Sadly, the portrayal of the police isn't that far off the mark.

Isaac Suárez

Deja Vu is incredible but omg Man on Fire, despite its awesome tonyvision, made me wanna self-harm so hard

JD

I just watched 'Deja Vu' a few months ago on a DVD that I ended up selling.

Dan

only half an hour through and loving it, my personal favourite Tony Scott films are Man on Fire and Domino (which I always think of as Woman on Fire) but Deja Vu is up there too

Declan Kennedy

A+ Walken impression

Justin R

In so happythank you hesse and will

Jared Sarnie

This was good

Chad Dopamine

I got time. You don't, but I do.

Mulloy

Yo, I fuck w/ this first episode

Eater

Wait why did they use Hello Zepp for the trailer of Deja Vu?

Angelo J Sibilio

It’s been one episode, hypey.

snafujesus

we love hesse! we need more hesse!

Ricardo Pleasure

Montenegro??

snafujesus

This pod gave me acid flashbacks of watching both these movies at least 5 times a year on FX after middle school

Zach

I wonder what the inside of an old couple’s home would look like after the backblast from an RPG. My man JW Creasy definitely knows.

Paul F. Holzfäller

Just an excuse for Will to slurp down five mega sized diet cokes and a trash bag full of popcorn

bwen

Denzel Washington in A Tony Scott film 'The Mark Has Been Made': https://youtu.be/wIQTxXeUCa8

Yairo Martis

The "I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash" has to be a reference to Airplane, or whatever movie that was spoofing.

hotspur

I saw Man on Fire in the theaters and it was fantastic. RIP Tony!

Ozzie

Top tier content

Max Lopez

this rocks

Evan

Lets fucking GO

The True Horror

Sam Neills famous insane asylum digs from in the mouth of madness

Shawn Hayes

Let the boy watch.

Hick Rhodes

I love movies! 😸👍

Michael Oswell

I disagree, it was one of my favorite movies from 2004, along with Kill Bill Vol 2 and Million Dollar Baby

Joseph Pajerek

wtf is Will wearing

syd

Deja Vu was released in December of 2006, yet Will kept saying it was a 2007 film. Great ep other than that though

Joseph Pajerek

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caroline

anyone interested in my two tickets to tonight's movie minset show at 9:30? face value @ $21 each

Mika Braginsky

2h15m is a bad sign

J.P. McD.

Movie Mindset is when you just describe the entire plot of a movie on your movie podcast.

Cody Johnson

will say this word again, "Debussy"

Sean Schuster-craig

If you are doing rourke then you got to at least briefly talk about the rainmaker. It’s perfect casting.

Tvvvv

You picked the wrong brother.

Poppy Chulo

Now I have another pair of podcast perverts to listen to while I wait for episodes of sleazoids to drop, hell yeah.

calvin kilby

We get it you watch movies

calvin kilby

No

NovalisGuy

Denzel is always good but Man on Fire really sucked IMO

Rich G

Very excited for this I love Hesse

kt

I'm so hard right now

nick

???? tony scott is the GOAT

Luis Gomez

Can’t wait to listen to this. Made me remember the verhoeven episode with Adam McKay - peak chapo there. More verhoeven more McKay

Ben Zaretsky

I take it back.

Whucko Jaang

Podcast for the new American century started using this for their film eps. Thieves.

NYCM&AHole

will’s face for the cover photo is sending me lmfaoooo

Greg Newton

literally walking around my house going "mov-ie mind-set" *clap clap clap clap clap*

Beehive Fucker

Get Rich Evans on you hackfrauds.

THEKILLERWHALE

Great episode! Maybe the second best leftist film critique podcast, behind Horror Vanguard.

Michael

Christman better be on this pod

TugNuggins

The original Man on Fire from 87 with Scott Glenn and Joe Pesci is excellent too, IMO!

John Douglas

Holy shit, 2 hrs?! Sick!

Secularhumanist

Yesssss been waiting for this

Kroy

So excited for this

Neil pearson

The bemusing adulation Tony Scott gets from the Chapo Boys is their most enjoyable wrong opinion

EnKaff

the people love and demand more Hesse!!

Chloe

inquiring minds would like to know

CS

love this hosting combo

zach

I'm gay for movies and for Will and for Denzel and I'm just absolutely queer as fuck for Hesse

MTG'S magical roast beef pussy for president 2028!

You just love to see it. Let's fucking go!!!

Gurjot

The popcorn 🍿 can't be beat

James Blackmon

love y'all thx for keepin the slop spigot spewing topnotch slop ✨❤️

Malaparte_Animal

Leeetttssss fffuuuccckkinnggg gooooooo!!!!

Mike Loudin

😲

FDRomanowski

At cinemacon rn, can't wait to listen

Shawn Provencher

will tell me your favorite steak preparation ive never heard it before

original gay pussy eatah

I attempted to watch Deja Vu but it sucked.

Whucko Jaang

I'm pro airline episode as well!

Brian O'Connor

I’m ready to be enlightened.

Seph

Cool cool cool

Nicholas Conti


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