Reacting to Fellow Travelers - Episode 3
Added 2023-11-15 15:43:32 +0000 UTCBeeeeeeeeaaauuutiful Patroen Family!
Happy wednesday! Welcome back to another video!
Today we are jumping back into Fellow Travelers and Episode 3 certainly keeps us on our toes!
See you in the comments!
Love, always ♥️
Comments
The above is from the 1950s in the state of Florida....it almost mimics what went on federally.
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-20 02:52:14 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/IbTBehjdlc0?si=YVfYQtBrrItuLT3b
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-20 02:51:32 +0000 UTCRight now I am not a fan of Hawk, I think he is acting in a way to make himself feel better, in his mind if he stays with Tim for a week and looks after him, then he can go back to his life, and tell himself he is a decent person…
Erin
2023-11-20 00:43:55 +0000 UTCI was born in 1975 so i missed out on everything that was going on in the 80's but that doesn't make this any easier to watch. I had to feel sorry for Hawk, just for a minute, in this episode as seeing Tim in the toilet you could see how much he still cared for him, but like someone else said he made his decision and it had consequences :(
Audrey Gunn
2023-11-18 16:20:59 +0000 UTCSaw episode 4 last night. WOW. Keeps getting better and you keep getting more emotional
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-18 13:38:24 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/dY69YIfUNrA?si=O0QVjTSp6DcdITXN
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-17 22:30:42 +0000 UTCA memorila to Jack... not about AIDS but about true love that was not afraid of itself.
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-17 22:30:37 +0000 UTCVery well made short from Mark Lee Goldberg
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-17 22:02:47 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/PXbVN4w37As?si=K71yCWoWNwO3lr7I
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-17 22:01:51 +0000 UTCThis is such an intense series. I really appreciate your reactions. You were wondering about books that talk about the history of the time. I enjoyed the book this series is based on. And while the book story is not centered on a decades long relationship between Hawk and Tim it does speak a lot about the political history of the time. I thought the tone felt similar to the series (although that could be because I had already started watching the show). I am enjoying how they’ve adapted the book and compelling our interest and understanding of the history of these different decades through the story of these two men.
SWills
2023-11-16 19:00:34 +0000 UTC👍😊
Michael
2023-11-16 17:51:28 +0000 UTCMaybe one day. One of the reason why I stopped performing is because I suffered from vocal damage and I’m still very much trying to rehab through it. But as soon as I can I’ll definitely be posting.
Jackie-Ross Lavender
2023-11-16 16:16:30 +0000 UTCAh damn - of course it is. Great to hear that your wonderful singing voice has returned. Now, considering that that's the case, how about treating us to you singing a complete song/aria from that show or any show really here on Patreon. Shouldn't be any copyright issues hopefully. I was thinking you singing to a backing track. That would be terrific and I'm sure lots of your fans on here would be over the moon seeing/hearing you perform again. Any chance please?
Michael
2023-11-16 16:11:06 +0000 UTCClose... it's Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again from The Phantom of the Opera <3
Jackie-Ross Lavender
2023-11-16 15:57:37 +0000 UTCJackie - surely I've got it right this time haven't I? Your singing at the beginning - it's from Les Mis isn't it?
Michael
2023-11-16 15:56:27 +0000 UTCI was living and working in France through the 80's. The French government was more active than the US government in addressing the AIDS crisis, but friends of friends were dying. I was still totally in the closet, so I was just an observer of the tragedy. I lost my job in the early 90’s and decided to move back to the US, specifically the San Francisco Bay Area. It was time to come out, and I really let loose. I volunteered for an AIDS/HIV hotline, was well trained in the latest information about HIV transmission and treatment (or lack thereof). I was relatively safe, but I was making up for lost time. And I looking for Mr. Right. I found him on a primitive hookup app, such as the tech of day provided. We started spending time together; he stayed over on the weekends, and in a few months, moved in full time. He was out to family, friends, and at work. I was starting to, feeling pretty safe in San Francisco. Not long after he moved in, he got diagnosed with Karposi Sarcoma, and finally agreed to get tested. He was positive. At that point I was in love and there was no way I would leave him. He suffered through the horrible side-effects of the early drugs, until the much more effective multi-drug cocktails arrived. He’s in great health today, almost 30 years later. I have such sadness that I didn’t (couldn’t) come out sooner. But I also sometimes feel that, if I had, I would not have survived the 80’s. Somehow luck, Karma, good genes saved me in the end. Still HIV negative after all these years.
Douglas Rayner
2023-11-16 00:39:56 +0000 UTCI was born in 1986 and so much of this is history to me but I remember my mum's reaction when my cousin came out in the early 2000's (2001 I think). She said she hoped that he stayed safe. I thought she meant from violence, Matthew Sheppard and other hate crimes were top of my mind. She was remembering the AIDS crisis. she worked as a designer in New York in the 70s and 80s and buried at least 1 close friend. That was when she told me she could remember all the funerals, I had never realised that she knew multiple people that had died then. She was not part of any of the at risk communities but it touched everyone in some way.
Rosie Dickinson
2023-11-15 23:48:23 +0000 UTCThis episode is one of the only times I have felt sympathy for present-day Hawk. Him going in the bathroom and sitting on the toilet, realizing he's about to lose (what seems to be) the love of his life made me feel for him. But then, at the same time, I'm like yeah, Hawk, actions have consequences, and you made your bed. "Hope it was worth it", indeed.
Jamie
2023-11-15 23:37:51 +0000 UTCThis show continues to impress with how accurately it tells the story of this shameful period of American history. And everything you say about the horror of Roy Cohn is true. I had the opportunity several years ago to direct the second half of Angels in America , “Peristroika,” and it was sort of satisfying to include the optional scene of him in Hell. I don’t think the relationship between Cohn and Schine has ever been completely confirmed, but seems pretty clear that at least Cohn was infatuated with Schine. (Interesting piece of trivia: many years later, Schine was the executive producer of the movie “The French Connection.”) And though it is not a whole book about these events, there is a pretty good section about the McCarthy era in Neil Miller’s “Out of the Past: Gay and Lesbian History from 1869 to the Present.”
Lane Wright
2023-11-15 23:29:59 +0000 UTCI grew up in a small western Pennsylvania town in the 60's. Very closeted. The teenage years were all in the heady 70s. Even in that town, the 70s impacted our lives. In my junior year, I was molested by my Spanish teacher in his home with his invalid mother sleeping upstairs. He knew I was gay. I asked him how he knew. At the time I had a crush on my math teacher Gary. He said you don't need to say a word, it is how you looked and spoke when Gary came into the room. I attempted suicide after this incident and it almost derailed my life except somehow, I pulled my shit together and entered the 80's after I graduated from college in 1981. Well, that was the year AIDS became a word in the gay vocabulary. Not exactly that word. We called it then the gay cancer. It was later called AIDS. I was living in NYC and working as a retail executive for Saks Fifth Avenue. So many died. So many I knew died and they had friends who died and on and on and on and bloody on!!! It never stopped. In 1986 I held the love of my life, my best friend, my mentor, and my fellow traveler soul in my arms as he died. At only 29 years old. I tried to commit suicide again and almost made it. But almost does not count. This series on Showtime is killing me. The memories can't stop. And as I write this, I am crying my eyes out for my Teddy. My beautiful love Ted. My Teddy bear and my anchor.
Christopher Hopwood
2023-11-15 21:40:49 +0000 UTCOne interesting fact you may not know is that Roy Cohn still affects our life in the US. He was Donald Trump’s lawyer and mentor when Trump was young. Trump deserted him when Cohn got AIDS. You can see Kohn’s influence in Trump and the fascism he projects. I remember the day I was tested for HIV. I got the test soon soon after it was developed because I was a nurse exclusively treating AIDS patients. I was very sexually active when I was young. I knew Of at least two people I had Had sex with who were infected. One had died. I thought there was no way I was not infected. I was shocked when the test came back negative. To this day I don’t why.
Jon Anthony Carsello
2023-11-15 20:45:10 +0000 UTCI was right, I was not emotionally ready for another episode 💔 I cannot believe that I did A level history, a large chunk of which revolved around American politics, I remember coursework on McCarthy etc and not once was any of this persecution mentioned. It just shows how much can be overlooked when it isn't included in our education 😔
Louise Poole 🍂
2023-11-15 19:27:35 +0000 UTCHere I go preaching again but please don’t put too much pressure on yourself.
Diane Furlong
2023-11-15 18:35:23 +0000 UTCIn regards to the HIV/Aids situation in the 80s I lived it through a different perspective. I was a hospital nurse on a medical/surgical unit in Wilmington Delaware. When HIV came along no one knew anything about it. Very much like when Covid came about. Partly due to unknowing and partly due to some fear the whole way of providing medical care changed before our eyes. There wasn’t a large LGBTQ community that I was aware of in our area. People still needed blood transfusions plus we were dealing with bodily fluids on a daily basis. If we were feeling that sort of uncertainty, I can’t even imagine the fear and uncertainty of those who were at risk.
Diane Furlong
2023-11-15 18:16:00 +0000 UTCJackie, I truly believe that Hawk cares for and about Tim but is afraid to show. The sadness and fear that Hawk shows when he was alone in the bathroom broke my heart.
Diane Furlong
2023-11-15 18:08:23 +0000 UTCAnd to think we have 5 more episodes to go till the end of the season.
Kong Chang
2023-11-15 17:38:34 +0000 UTCOkay let’s go!
Diane Furlong
2023-11-15 16:58:13 +0000 UTCI do find myself having quite an emotional connection to and sympathy for both Hawk and Tim ( as individual characters and together in their relationship with each other ) - Johnathan Bailey said this in an interview and its 100% how I feel in regards to both characters: “I think everyone has a bit of Tim or Hawkins in themselves, but the thing I really relate to with Tim is his need for integrity, he cannot not be himself. I think Hawk can operate on multiple different levels, and both are not right or wrong in their survival under this horrible system” The important part to me is that neither is right or wrong in how they are choosing to survive this world they are in and are just trying to do it in the only way they see how
Olivia
2023-11-15 16:55:22 +0000 UTCSuch a great episode....
Kong Chang
2023-11-15 16:08:55 +0000 UTCI am going to try and get this weeks episode up by sunday... try being the optimum word there!
Jackie-Ross Lavender
2023-11-15 15:45:01 +0000 UTCI'm watching along with you as I haven't watched it yet. I dont know if I'm emotionally ready for another episode 💔
Louise Poole 🍂
2023-11-15 15:44:24 +0000 UTC
