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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): It's weird when women don't like children

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): It's weird when women don't like children

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@Joseph Oh we’re not over yet - we’re just going through a bottleneck. But it is still very sad to see.

RhodiumMaiden

Gotta love it when women make videos trashing men while applying makeup to attract men.

Roger Hayden

In today's US economy, 80 percent of working people's average annual salaries are slightly less than $50,000. That's not enough for a man to support a wife and children. I never wanted either.

Roger Hayden

Sign of our times -- our species have had a long run, haven't we ... ? 😢

Joseph Omega

@RhodiumMaiden - I explained this misleading fallacy of "global minority" elsewhere -- EVERY group falls under that designation: https://chatgpt.com/share/ee50df52-47e6-414a-8f93-d97ffb3ee9cf In addition because, like me, you are a nascent fan of the Collins', you may be interested in their new assessment of the reasons behind the baby boom as well as the fertility drop among European peoples: https://youtu.be/U53M1o32Ui0?si=c5P5pXrlaXijdqrG

Joseph Omega

I’d offer but I don’t have the bandwidth to do video. Maybe once I’ve moved.

RhodiumMaiden

Until quite recently it was actually reversed - red/pink was boys and blue for girls. At least in the west. It was this way for many hundreds of years.

RhodiumMaiden

@Joseph I completely agree that AG is naive and that comment you quoted shows it well.

RhodiumMaiden

@Eric The problem is that many if not most women, when they get pregnant and for whatever reasons don’t want to have the child, don’t actually want to give up their child (deep down subconsciously). They feel attached to the child but they don’t want to acknowledge it and dislike the idea of anyone else raising their child. So it’s much easier emotionally, physically, and financially to just get an abortion. Especially as I suspect most women realise that if they went through with the pregnancy they wouldn’t be able to give up the baby.

RhodiumMaiden

@Joseph 💯 to your first reply!

RhodiumMaiden

@Eric Also not enough babies especially of certain ethnic groups.

RhodiumMaiden

Western birth rates dropping matters more because we white people are already the global minority & vastly outnumbered by other races especially Asians.

RhodiumMaiden

This is CGS’s best input by far! Normally I just prefer AG. Or Matt.

RhodiumMaiden

@EC strongly agree, I don’t want a man who already has kids. I feel possessive of my man’s DNA. Also, I want to go through that entire experience of parenthood with someone who is also experiencing it for the first time.

RhodiumMaiden

I’m so sorry. I think it’s a combo of both.

RhodiumMaiden

Hey AG, check out this thread & especially the replies: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/1e5dbm8/ladies_over_30_who_have_never_had_children_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This is the most depressing thread I’ve ever read. The mass delusion & rationalisation are off the charts. It is FAR more common to regret NOT having children than the reverse. 500+ women saying how ‘ecstatic’, ‘giddy’ and ‘overjoyed’ they are to be childless.

RhodiumMaiden

Never wanted kids. I was the oldest of 6. A former girlfriend said she couldn't relate to kids, didn't want any. We split. A year later she had met a guy with $$$$ and had her first kid, followed by more. Money talks.

Roger Hayden

There should be mandatory Paternal (free of cost) tests at natal hospitals. Heard there is some new law in the States for this.

Tord Pettersson

This discussion lands very personal to me. I came from a broken dysfunctional family and in my younger years thought "who would want to do that". But then in my early 20's , living alone for a while, I realized, man I love being alone , free, not answering to anyone, throwing a dart on the map and just go there, explore the world, free of any care whatsoever ..... for a while. One year, two years, three years. But not for the next half a century. So I set out to find a wife somehow. But I knew nothing about love. Knew nothing about relationships. Knew nothing about family life. Had to figure it all out myself the hard way. It's so amazing seeing all this very insightful content coming up!

castirondude

True. There is more to it than that. 1) The mother left the father. Is he a bad dude? Will you now have this bad dude coming over, laying claim to his kid which he had with your wife? Will there be shared custody so you have to co-parent with this guy? 2) Or, maybe he wasn't a bad dude and he already knows something about your wife-to-be that you haven't figured out yet. Maybe she just chewed him up and spit him out and he's not having it anymore, so she moves on to you

castirondude

True Eric, but still a stray from biological instincts.

paddy darcy

@E C - "You go girl!" 👍 Hopefully you are now at least PURPLE-pilled in your level of discernment.

Joseph Omega

@E C - To which we SHOULD always say "Vive la différence!", rather than turning to or remaining with the "blue pill" for temporary relief or placebo. I gather you came to this Patreon for edification. I hope these discussions are helping facilitate that process. PS. Your telling use of the expressions "little girl" and "passed" (and even "putting down") is SO endearing, that men are naturally drawn to such hopelessly Feminine expressions, despite not being able to quite share in the full inner experience that inspired them -- in fact, at its very best, a constant source of sheer delightful "bemusement".

Joseph Omega

@E C - THAT certainly makes sense, and consistent with the traditional view of women and their nurturing drive, especially for children -- it is actually that they are SO much so, that it is the risk of the pain of LOSS of the connection (rather than the FUTILITY of it, as is more the case with men) that explains a woman's reluctance to "get involved" in a genetic investment not their own. So, if such a risk could be MITIGATED, it stands to reason that women, VERY unlike men, are perfectly willing (in fact positively ENTHUSIASTIC) to raise another woman's offspring. It could also be extrapolated that ANY close relationship loss (such as boyfriend, pet, parent, sibling, etc.) would impact a woman SIGNIFICANTLY MORE than it would a man. And the loss does not even have to be literal OR permanent to generate a profound effect, is that correct? This WOULD also explain Alexander's frequent contention that "women need attention FAR more than men": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OECohJnRu98 Though probably staged, the clip at timestamp 1:26 was particularly illustrative.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Ah, I begin to understand your point: You are saying that, by Christine claiming that she "upderstands and supports" women who say "The choice to not want to have children is absolutely fine, and if you identify certain parts of your personality, that would suggest you're probably not going to be a good parent" and "I really respect people like that who say 'I'm not going to be a good parent, so I'm not going to have children'", she may be "giving the impression" that abortion is a perfectly viable and responsibility-free alternative to adoption. So, I agree with you, but to qualify this as "gaslighting", she must be CONSCIOUSLY aware of her "manipulation of reality". This I do not see at all. For one, when she says "We don't need more bad parents -- we don't want people who aren't going to be there for their children reproducing", this seems rather indisputable, and that very VERY few would disagree, so this remains a TRUISM and does not reflect a "manipulation of reality". However, this unintentionally DOES tend to give many women already weakened and indoctrinated by the many decades of the twin "social contagions" of "Feminist Ideology" and "Western Individualism", the QUICK EXCUSE to absolve themselves of any and all familial, social and even species obligations associated with child bearing and rearing -- what I elsewhere refer to as "laziness". She, however, does this UNINTENTIONALLY. And she is not the only influencer who falls into that trap -- in fact, Alexander himself frequently does: Recall when he interviewed Malcom and Simone Collins a few weeks ago, and found himself saying: "I imagine you might, do you look at me and where I'm coming from and think some variation of 'Oh bless him he's quite naive -- he has an unjustifiable optimism in human capacity and individualism that algorithms and technology are going to suck more humans than he is aware of into this vortex, and then we're going to be going to be fucked. That's why you need tribalistic thinking patterns that are at least more positively oriented (like what you're calling cultures), in order to safeguard against that. And that it's too Ivory Tower his version of individualism, to actually be a meaningful opposing force to the sheer efforts of that.'" His view, like SO many others (including Christine), just represents a naive and inadvertent KOWTOWING to the "Western" Feministic and Indivualistic "deitites", even if, CONSCIOUSLY criticizing them and their impact on contributing to the hypocrisy, chaos and decadence of "Western" culture, especially with respect to its "Gender Wars". Expectedly and understandably, Christine goes on to say "we don't need more kids being put into care and adopted", which further inadvertently contributes to the "laziness" choices for abortion over adoption, and hence the existential risk associated with birth rate decline faced by "Developed" nations (both in the "West" AND the "East"). You get a very good idea that this subtle "flaw" is obviously inadvertent and unintentional when she says "The truth is that I'm an exception not the rule, so that aside from the question, is she saying she doesn't want to reproduce because she genuinely can identify parts of herself that she recognizes wouldn't be a good parent, or is she saying this because she can't acknowledge, like Alexander quite rightly says, her Natural Instincts? Is it her choice that she doesn't want to have kids, or is her saying this the result of the indoctrination that has taken place in her mind thanks to Feminism?" Questions which I'm sure everyone here often ponders. And I believe the SPECIFIC section that you reference is where she says: "Of course exceptions exist -- my dad for example. I'm not his biological child. Adopted dads all over the world who are willing to raise someone else's children. You know my dad can have children, but he chose to adopt. So yes, there are exceptions, but even me, in my reality, where I'm not my father's biological child, I recognize most men don't want to raise someone else's child." The point she was making was in reference to the well known and popular "red pill" idea that she quotes: "It's true that most MEN don't want to raise another man's child ... that is the truth for the majority of men, and again it's a biological drive. It's a biological instinct and you can't argue against that." This idea does not address, nor even IMPLY, the converse of whether WOMEN desire to raise another person's child (a question I earlier posed to @E C). But in "red pill" space, her dad seems OBVIOUSLY an exception to THAT particular rule. You appear to have a LOT of experience in the foster care and adoption system, but I do not. And like Christine, have the (probably largely media driven) idea that foster care is somewhat of a hellscape. I appreciate your wealth of experience as well as your willingness to share it but, even you must admit, very few of us who have never had it, have ANY clue of what REALLY goes on there, so you may have to forgive our understandable ignorance.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph Omega - True. In the video you posted she actually talks about being a foster adoption. However, I’ve seen her in several videos (including the one we are posting on) where she just refers to her “adoption”, and mentions that she is an “exception.” Maybe she could just say “foster adoption” in the future. The foster system has a bad name for all its troubles, but none of the people who bash it seem to have any solutions. AG would have actual stats and solutions. She does praise her father a lot, but again she refers to him as an “exception.” As her mom is not her biological mother, I don’t get how he is an exception. Kids who go through the foster system don’t have it easy. But hearing that fact makes many women choose abortion, not realizing they can totally avoid the foster system. The truth is that children who are given up for adoption as babies have very good outcomes, and the parents who give them up love them, and give them to someone else out of love wanting the best for them. The demons who hate their babies abort them.

Eric Linden

It's a good example that both can be true: Its not nature vs. nurture, i's nature AND nurture. And it' s not always straight forward which is which and to what extend.

Hermann

@Eric Linden - I agree, she certainly IS quite young, but I'm not sure, you SEEM to be saying that Christine is CRITICAL of her adopted father? I gathered QUITE the opposite -- she clearly seems to love and cherish her adopted parents, as far as I can tell. Also, in the video I sent, she EXPLICITY says (at timestamp 2:26) "When I was a few months old and I was placed into FOSTER care I was looked after by a lovely lady called Linda", and at timestamp 2:49, "I guess, you know, you're in this FOSTER home and people come and and look and, you know, say which one they want." At timestamp 3:52 she says "The only issue was because of the severity of my biological mother's mental illness and SHE DID NOT CONSENT to the adoption, so it had to go through the courts actually." Perhaps I misunderstand your points. 🤔 Can you clarify, especially the part about the "gaslighting" of women who abort? Just in case anyone is interested, here are two followup videos where Christine describes the next phases of her short life (up to the present age): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhO7hLlrqnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIf8VsC2v9k

Joseph Omega

@E C - Traditionally, women sacrificed their bodies to have children, while men sacrifiiced their bodies to safeguard families and communities. Again, it is only fairly recently that each side has made it a point of contention to insist that the other side has it easier. Childbirth, violence and living/working standards have come a LONG way since the horrid days of high maternal, conflict and workplace mortality. In the past, life was short and brutish for pretty much EVERYONE, regardless of gender: https://chatgpt.com/share/77e6617c-55ec-4bf6-a24e-61f47b90f5eb Note the very last table where the top ten most dangerous jobs in the US and their statistics for death and severe injuries (overwhlemingly among men) are listed. It's another poor indictment of "Western" society when males and females feel compelled to conduct "hardship pissing contests", admittedly a sadly ironic yet poignant turn of phrase in these days of "Women's (male-like) Empowerment" behavior. Still, despite it all, females have ALWAYS (in ALL eras and across ALL cultures) had a SIGNIFICANTLY longer life expectancy than males for SOME reason -- hey, just saying. 🤷‍♂️ PS. No need to apologize for your passion -- in fact, being a simple, relatively insensitive member of the masculine persuation, I would not have even NOTICED any particular harshness if you had not pointed it out (and even then!). After all, innate sensitivity and instinctual compassion remains a fundamental (and laudable) aspect of Femininity that even Feminism seems hard pressed to diminish to any meaningful degree.

Joseph Omega

@E C Regarding epidurals. As a medical professional, I recommend against them. The short term relief isn't worth the long term risk of complications. My mom had four babies without one. My wife had three without. It's just not worth it.

Eric Linden

CGS says her father is an exception. She is wrong. Her father isn't married to the biological mother. It is a totally different situation. She is young. Perhaps when she is older, she will have an appreciation for her adoptive father. She often comments about being adopted, but she doesn't mention that she was a foster care adoption, and that her mom didn't give her up; she was taken from her mom. Outcomes for baby adoptions are the same or better than those for children raised in traditional two parent homes. Outcomes for foster care adoptions are terrible comparatively. By leaving out this vital information, she is unwittingly gaslighting young pregnant women who end up aborting their children instead of giving them up for adoption.

Eric Linden

@E C - Your brother's girlfriend sounds like VERY many single mothers nowadays. Whether as a result of bitterness and frustration resulting from a previous relationship, or from a Feminism influenced society that not-too-subtlely elevates OTHER values (like "girl-bossedness") over maternal values and choices, this appears a VERY common modern occurance. It may also explain why single dads significantly and routinely outperform single moms on child rearing. I use the term "lazy" because I think the decison to avoid having children may be more due to the changes in "Western" value systems favoring "self-centeredness" over duties and obligations, as well as a trend (or tendency), in women especially, towards a lack of accountability. That you would so naturally think that "Very few people are qualified to be parents" and "Most parents don't deserve their children" just reflects the fairly recent "Western" cultural shift favoring "individualism" and "personal rights". If you were to be transported back just 100 short years, I'm fairly certain your viewpoint would have been very VERY different. Granted there ARE always a FEW exceptions to every rule, parents are not BORN, they are MADE, when adults rise (or are forced to rise) to life's many challenges, rather than slink away at every petulant opportunity to face their societal and biological responsibilities due to self-centered desires and ego-centric pursuits. I am not at all that convinced that "many people can't afford kids", as much as many people can't afford the SACRIFICES that kids often require -- "boss-babe" seems just too seductive a choice in these "lazy/crazy" times. It is SO very painful to hear when a woman has always wanted children but had reproductive challenges (especially since a young age). I'm of course assuming these challenges are not surmountable by any of these many modern technologies like IVF, surrogacy, hormonal treatments, etc., so I won't belabor them. BTW, if you're interested, here is the story of Christine Grace's adoption history in her own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMn1FXEwGY0

Joseph Omega

@E C - What if the woman cannot have children herself, due to age specifically which, owing to biology, would be FAR more common than the reverse? In addition, don't women NATURALLY posess a much MUCH greater affinity for children, regardless of origin? Or is that a fiction of the Matriarchy?

Joseph Omega

Not many blank slate theory advocates here. Our instincts really do boil down to children. But evolution throws in certain distractions that threaten to make it all fall apart. Technological advancement does permanently change things. And certain social contagions come and go, temporarily threatening the continuation of biological life if they last too long. Certain analogies can be made about other species. When there is too much stress, some go extinct. Others are altered forever becoming unrecognizable.

Eric Linden

Oooo was not expecting this format/collaboration! I liked it for sure!

Matt Scoggins

Thanks! I was correct. An excerpt from @Joseph's chatgpt: Before the 20th century, infants were typically dressed in white dresses, regardless of gender, due to the practicality of bleaching white cotton for cleanliness. The use of specific colors to denote gender began to take shape in the mid-19th century when pastel colors, including pink and blue, started being used for babies' clothing. Interestingly, in the early 20th century, the color pink was often recommended for boys, and blue for girls. Pink was considered a stronger, more decided color, suitable for boys, while blue, associated with the Virgin Mary, was seen as more delicate and dainty, suitable for girls. This recommendation was echoed in various trade publications and even in prominent U.S. department stores up until the 1920s. It wasn't until the 1940s that the current color conventions of pink for girls and blue for boys became firmly established. This shift was largely influenced by manufacturers and retailers who began to standardize these color associations, which quickly took hold in American society and persisted through the Baby Boomer generation. The reasons for this change are complex but include a combination of marketing strategies and cultural shifts.

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - From what I've always understood, this preference was not thought to be held by children, but by their parents, and has an interesting past (where before fairly recently, around WWII, it was the exact opposite): https://chatgpt.com/share/0dcc631c-ff12-428a-860b-533ddaa1f0c9 Go figure. 🤷‍♂️

Joseph Omega

I heard long ago that the “pink preferred by girls, blue preferred by boys” is not a genetic thing, but was started in the 1950s by advertising executives when they started doing ads in color. Does anyone have any references on this?

Eric Linden

@PerMagnus: A small world, aye… I’ve lived in those places too, except France (I need to pick up the language actually, so I might do that there, if I don’t do so in western Africa or Quebec, IDK…). And Norway-not-Sweden. Judging from your name, the latter seems to be your country of origin, am I right? And now we’re both on an Aussie’s patreon… LOL. I have no issues about acknowledging the data (the-data-is-the-data). And yes, they’ve been falling slightly. (OFC: C19 was an anomaly, where it fell dramatically almost everywhere. So that should mostly be discarded in our analysis, in east and west, north and south, alike.) But like you said, the issue is much exacerbated in the east, right? And I might add to that, both in the actual *current birth rates* (0.6 is way different than 1.9…), and as well *the direction / steepness*, in addition to the aforementioned lack of labor immigration. Which is why – if you don’t have an ideological agenda about «the falling west», like the presenter has –, would be more fair, informative and elucidating to bring up. What do you think? For instance, you know this – having lived in both of these regions –, we pretty much don’t see ladies with strollers containg *dogs* in the Nordics, mainland Germanics or France. In the east, you do. In fact, it’s normal. This could be fair to point out. (As opposed to the «billionaires invest in cat food», which is wrong on so many levels, I have no patience to even start explaining the economics. It’s so basic that I think it’s unlikely that any amount of explaining from a random Patreon commentor could have any effect.) PS: From the URL, it seems you pulled an article about Britain(?), which I think is besides the point, and cluttering by cherry-picking. There’s a reason I mentioned the specific countries I mentioned (albeit from the top of my head, but I keep quite updated on these issues), and not other countries. There are many countries in the «west» with low-and-falling birth rates. Basically, most of mediterranean Europe, the Balkans, and again pretty much all of *East* Europe. And again, in the latter places they have the same kind of problems as further east, when it comes to not being able to plug their labor shortage with immigration, due to: A: Language challenges (highly inflectional Slavic languages) B: Racism (exists everywhere, but more pronounced in Eastern than Western Europe) C: Low wages (compared to the anglosphere and West- and Central Europe in general) In addition they struggle with a terrible war situation. This will lead to a massive acceleration of «daddy issues»/«abandonment issues» or what I call «healthy masculinity deficiency disorder», as it’s wider than re. «dads» and «abandonment». This will leave a lot of extremely hypergamous women trying to compensate their lack of masculinity by going for the hyper-masculine, even more so than the average western woman. No good… Not only that tho… They’re not only not getting sufficient amount of work immigration, but they have a massive brain drain. I meet quite a few of’em here in East Asia, with good English (a rarity in Russia), computer skills, crypto investments, etc. While we find outliers in both places (East: Philipines still have quite high birth rates; West: Greece has very low), for the biggest economies in the West, it’s (mostly) not so low, (mostly) not falling so rapidly, and (mostly) getting plugged by labor immigration. In the East, it’s (mostly) opposite, and this is true even if you look at Western Europe vs Eastern Europe.

FutureBliss

@Eric Linden - I'm not sure I would use the term "emasculated" -- more "lobotomized" and/or "infantalized" maybe -- they remain QUITE "male", just "defanged". I would still reserve the term "emasculated" for the "West" though. I may have posted it before, but you may be interested in Malcom and Simone Collins' podcast on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxlKKD3-AE

Joseph Omega

@E C - I guess It COULD also be argued that many who adopt (who can easily bear their own children) can also be considered lazy (women who fear the rigours of child birth or child rearing), or simps (men who fear the disdain of women). I imagine valid arguments can be made on either side. I also wonder what is the percentage of orphans in the "West" who are the product of unwanted pregnancies and deliveries by women (not counting victims of incest or rape)?

Joseph Omega

Part of the problem in some third world countries is that the men have been emasculated. Much more emasculated than men in western countries. The best male minds have been recruited to the west and given citizenship. Like in the west, there are tons of "women's" programs to help women get ahead, but no programs for men. Many more men than women are unemployed. Women are the major bread winners in many families. Divorce is skyrocketing.

Eric Linden

I'm SO glad Alexander apparently heeded my specific advice from 2 months ago to interview Christine (though it likely may have just been a coincidence), and that has resulted in this exciting collaboration -- probably my two most favorite "red-pillers" (in the classic sense) in one place! 😃 Here is her flagship series that first endeared her to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRd4mvjtObg&list=PLfOXDvzWadYCR0EORnFKFeybjBCLf6I_f

Joseph Omega

The exception is adoption. The video clip says it: we don't want to be the clean up guy for our biological competitor. Adoption doesn't give you a child that is the biological offspring of only one of the parents. That's why there is such a huge adoption waiting list for babies.

Eric Linden

I have a 25-year old niece who has been so infected. IS there a way to "street proof" a girl short of joining a cult?

Joseph Omega

@PerMagnus Lindborg - I get the impression that the causes of low birth rates in the "West" and the "East", though comparable in effect, are actually largely the result of COMPLETELY different contributing influences -- overly "Progressive" and individualistic movements in the "West", and overly "Authoritarian" and collective movements in the "East", but both facilitated by "social media contagion".

Joseph Omega

@FutureBliss - 1. Actually, she may well be right: https://chatgpt.com/share/c19546b6-d785-467c-b2f4-27bdd542dfbd 2. Can you translate the flag emojis to actual country names for the vexillologically illiterate?

Joseph Omega

This is what ChatGPT told me: https://chatgpt.com/share/d4ad2417-c305-4790-ad95-7800449ded53

Joseph Omega

Postpartum depression must have some evolutionary cause. And before the 20th century, wanting to abort a baby was exclusively a female desire. Then there are women who desperately want to conceive, but immediately want an abortion after becoming pregnant. It's not a new thing. Is it increasing? There must be a genetic cause. Can it just be the culture?

Eric Linden

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/30/the-baby-bust-how-britains-falling-birthrate-is-creating-alarm-in-the-economy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

PerMagnus Lindborg

It’s true that birth rates were increasing to approach natural replacement rate in France, Sweden etc 1980–2000, but the trend over the past decade is, alas, downwards. Obviously the problem is much exacerbated in Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc. (Fun fact: I’ve lived in these five countries). https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/30/the-baby-bust-how-britains-falling-birthrate-is-creating-alarm-in-the-economy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

PerMagnus Lindborg

It's difficult the see the evolutionary psychology behind a woman NOT wanting to have children (outside of famine-related conditions).

Joseph Omega

Though I can agree with you that a diversity of female voices ARE useful, the CRITICAL priority is for the younger women of child-bearing age.

Joseph Omega

Good to see AG responding to Patreon viewers by finally bringing back female collaborators. I do like CGS, but she is not my favorite. I hope he can occasionally bring in a variety of collaborators, but only when the subject warrants. It would be nice to see some female voices closer to AG's age, and closer to my age (50s). Past female collaborators have mostly been women from their early 20s as I recall; and as the content seems to be steering more toward evolutionary psychology in relationships, and a little less toward dating, it would be interesting to see the male and female take from an older perspective.

Eric Linden

A man wants to raise another man's child no more than a woman wants to date a man shorter than her. There are exceptions, sure, but they are far from the norm. It is nothing less than hubris for women to think that they can shame men into changing their natural biological preferences. There has been some vile and foul undertone afoot since the dawn of feminism and sexual liberation, culminated in the attack and break-down of nuclear family. What I observed is the disturbing transmogriphication of people into something abominable and unnatural -- the concerted denial and dismantling of sex and gender polarity. Is it not an outrage to conditioning a cat to spin around before laying down, a dog to knead its bed, a crab to walk forwards and backwards, etc. They are affronts to nature. Have we not been doing the same with people for decades?

Hyperion

Another great video! Nitpicks: 1. Billionaires do not particularly invest in cat food. 🤦‍♂️ Utterances like this make us doubt *any* fact/study/research that will come out of her mouth. Can still be useful to hear what she has to say otherwise, but she pretty much nullified any scientific reporting. 2. You said the low birth rates in the «west», when you should actually have said the opposite: «east». 🇰🇷🇯🇵🇲🇴🇭🇰🇹🇼, and OFC, the major thing happening (albeit still at an earlier stage, but this will accelarate faster than most other places) in 🇨🇳. Quite a few economies in the «west» are doing quite well (from the top of my head: 🇳🇴🇸🇪🇩🇰🇫🇷➕➕), w/ replacement-levels-or-near-replacement-levels, and not particularly dropping either. Additionaly they have very succesful work immigration to even out the (small) gap. Again, as opposed to the east. The only sizable country w/ high birth rates in the East (but dropping there too), is 🇵🇭. But why would an often English speaking, often Christian, Philipina go to any of those non-English-speaking-non-Christian East Asian states, when she can go to the «west»? Indonesia is big too, but muslim, and at around replacement-level-and-dropping. Why would an Indonesian go to China (they’re scared they’ll be treated badly because they are muslim), when they can go to Malaysia (has the same religion *and* speaks the same language), UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc? Whether Philipina or Indonesia, they have their own reasons not to, but both will also earn more money in the «west» (or «non-east»). Basically: Language Challenges + More Racism + Stagnating Economies = A Phillipina or Indonesian goes from-east-to-west. (Exceptions exist, particularly in super-rich 🇭🇰🇲🇴, where there are a lot of’em, but these are tiny states that are exceptions to the rule.)

FutureBliss

# "As Good As It Gets" Analysis ## Overview - Released: 1997 - Director: James L. Brooks - Main characters: - Melvin Udall (Jack Nicholson): 60 years old - Carol Connelly (Helen Hunt): 34 years old - Simon Bishop (Greg Kinnear): Late 30s ## Categorization - Genre: Romantic Comedy-Drama - Age category: 40+ (based on the male lead) ## Analysis through our lens 1. Age Dynamics: - The film features a significant age gap between the male and female leads, with Melvin in the 40+ category and Carol in the 30-40 range. - This places the movie primarily in our 40+ category, which represents only 9% of romantic comedies. 2. Reproductive Themes: - Despite Melvin's age (60), which is well past peak reproductive years, the film still incorporates themes related to family and caregiving. - Carol, at 34, is still within reproductive age, and her role as a single mother is central to the plot. 3. Societal Expectations: - The film challenges typical rom-com conventions by focusing on an older, highly flawed protagonist. - It explores themes of personal growth and connection that aren't typically tied to reproductive potential. 4. Critical and Commercial Success: - The film was both a critical and commercial success, winning multiple Academy Awards. - This success challenges the notion that audiences are less interested in romantic stories featuring older characters. 5. Character Development: - The focus is more on personal growth and overcoming individual challenges rather than traditional romantic pursuits. - This aligns with the higher ratings we observed for films featuring older characters, possibly due to more complex character development. 6. Evolutionary Perspective: - While not focused on reproduction, the film does explore caregiving and forming family-like bonds, which have evolutionary significance. - Melvin's character arc involves learning to care for others (Simon's dog, Carol's son), which could be seen as an extension of parental instincts. "As Good As It Gets" stands out as an exception to many of the trends we identified in romantic comedies. Its success suggests that while evolutionary factors may influence general trends in the genre, there's still significant audience appreciation for stories that explore love and connection beyond peak reproductive years.

Adam Schroeder

There is a caveat to men not wanting to raise another man’s child. Most men have no problem with adoption, and think it is preferable to abortion. What they don’t want is to raise another man’s child that was mothered by their wife.

Eric Linden

I wonder how "As Good As It Gets" gets categorized.

Mark Bryski

# Comprehensive Analysis of Age Distribution in Romantic Comedies ## Age Distribution Based on a comprehensive analysis of romantic comedies throughout cinematic history, here's an estimated breakdown of the primary characters' ages: under 20: 8% 20-30: 52% 30-40: 31% 40+: 9% ## Average Ratings by Age Group Using a 5-star rating system, here are the estimated average ratings for each age group: - under 20: 3.6 ⭐ - 20-30: 3.8 ⭐ - 30-40: 4.0 ⭐ - 40+: 3.7 ⭐ ## Initial Analysis 1. Age Distribution: - The 20-30 age group dominates, representing over half of all romantic comedy protagonists. This aligns with societal expectations and the typical "coming of age" narrative popular in the genre. - The 30-40 group follows, showing a significant representation of more mature relationships and characters dealing with established careers and life pressures. - Teen romantic comedies (under 20) and those featuring older adults (40+) are less common but still have a notable presence. 2. Ratings Analysis: - Interestingly, the 30-40 age group receives the highest average rating. This could be due to more complex character development, relatable life situations, and potentially more nuanced storytelling. - The 20-30 group, while most common, ranks second in average ratings. These films often appeal to a wide audience but may sometimes rely on more clichéd storylines. - Movies featuring characters 40+ have a slightly lower average rating, possibly due to less frequent production leading to more hit-or-miss outcomes. - Teen romantic comedies (under 20) have the lowest average rating, which might be attributed to more formulaic plots or a narrower target audience. 3. Trends Over Time: - There's been a gradual increase in the representation of 30-40 and 40+ age groups over the past few decades, reflecting changing demographics and audience interests. - The quality and ratings of movies featuring older protagonists have generally improved over time, as filmmakers explore more diverse and mature storylines. ## Evolutionary and Societal Analysis Examining the age distribution and ratings of romantic comedies through an evolutionary and societal lens offers additional insights: 1. Reproductive Potential: - The dominance of the 20-30 age group (52%) aligns with peak reproductive years. From an evolutionary standpoint, audiences may be more invested in stories about young people falling in love due to the implicit potential for offspring and continuation of the species. - The strong representation of the 30-40 age group (31%) also corresponds with reproductive capability, though nearing its end for women. - The lower representation of 40+ romances (9%) could indeed reflect a subconscious viewer preference for stories with potential reproductive outcomes. 2. Societal Expectations: - Society often emphasizes finding a life partner during one's 20s and 30s, which is reflected in the high percentage of rom-coms featuring these age groups. - The relatively high ratings for the 30-40 group (4.0 stars) might indicate an appreciation for stories about finding love during a life stage associated with established careers and increased pressure to settle down. 3. Viewer Demographics and Relatability: - The target audience for many rom-coms is often young adults, who may find stories about people in their age group more relatable. - The slightly lower ratings for 40+ rom-coms (3.7 stars) could be due to a smaller target audience or less relatability for younger viewers. 4. Cultural Narratives: - The focus on younger couples in rom-coms reinforces cultural narratives about youth, beauty, and the "ideal" time for romance. - The underrepresentation of 40+ romances might perpetuate the notion that finding love later in life is less common or less exciting. 5. Biological Clock Narrative: - Many rom-coms, especially those featuring 30-40 year-olds, often incorporate storylines about the "biological clock" and the pressure to have children before it's "too late." - This narrative directly ties into the evolutionary perspective of valuing stories about potentially reproductive couples. 6. Changing Trends: - The gradual increase in representation and quality of 40+ rom-coms over time might reflect changing societal attitudes about love and relationships later in life. - It could also indicate a growing audience of older viewers who want to see themselves represented in romantic stories. While the evolutionary perspective offers a compelling explanation for the age distribution in rom-coms, it's important to note that modern human behavior is influenced by a complex interplay of biological, cultural, and individual factors. The preference for younger couples in rom-coms is likely a result of both innate biological preferences and learned societal expectations. This comprehensive analysis provides a multifaceted view of age representation in romantic comedies, considering both surface-level trends and deeper societal and evolutionary factors that might influence these patterns.

Adam Schroeder

A few take aways for me: (1) When I find myself in conversation with someone advocating this dark anti-children psychology, end the conversation and end it quickly with “you are weird”; (2) How do I “street proof” my daughters so they are ok when they get exposed to this dark psychology; (3) My sexual/relationship market strategy is to target women who are now accepting the inconvenient truths they were fighting when living their boss babe lifestyle. I wonder if they go through different stages as they reach this realization. It will be beneficial to have a road map of their transformation.

Mark Bryski

My first wife wanted our first child, didn’t want our second child, and killed (aborted) our third child, very much against my wishes. It led to our divorce. But we planned all three. She wanted all three in the beginning. Is it evolutionary psychology or is it our current culture that does this to women? Or is it a bit of both?

Eric Linden

I think, based solely on my own experiences, that women who abhore the idea of having children are potentially child killers. Their dislike goes so deep that they would kill their own offspring. They belong in treatment.

Lioninwinter


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