PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Confidence on women can be so ugly
Added 2024-07-29 03:00:03 +0000 UTC
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Posting here in the parent thread for general dissemination: Similarly, all types of overtly "assertive" fashions (and behaviors) are SIGNIFICANTLY offputting to VERY many men. I'm not sure I understand where and why women came to believe things like "body modifications" were attractive to men, or why, what tradtionally were considered MALE disfigurements (like tattoos with their "Western" origin in the military or prison), should be adopted as symbols of "beauty" (of all things) by women. Again, I "blame" Feminist ideologies (largely spread via "social contagion" to which women are well known to be particularly susceptable): https://chatgpt.com/share/613b380d-1288-428b-97ac-152f42953738 ChatGPT summary: "Yes, my assessment is that your contention is plausible—it is reasonable to argue that most men might find forms of female body autonomy, such as tattoos, non-ear piercings, and extreme hair colors, unattractive but tolerate them due to social pressures or fear of feminist censure. This perspective aligns with historical and cultural norms, as well as the influence of societal shifts that encourage outward acceptance even if personal preferences may differ."
Joseph Omega
2024-08-16 18:28:13 +0000 UTC@Sgt Pepper - Indeed it IS significantly offputting to VERY many men. I'm not sure I understand where and why women came to believe all these "body modifications" were attractive to men, or why, what tradtionally were considered MALE disfigurements (like tattoos with their Western origin in the military or prison) should be adopted as symbols of "beauty" (of all things) by women. Again, I "blame" Feminism and its spread by "social contagion" to which women are well known to be profoundly susceptable: https://chatgpt.com/share/613b380d-1288-428b-97ac-152f42953738 In summary: "Yes, my assessment is that your contention is plausible—it is reasonable to argue that most men might find forms of female body autonomy, such as tattoos, non-ear piercings, and extreme hair colors, unattractive but tolerate them due to social pressures or fear of feminist censure. This perspective aligns with historical and cultural norms, as well as the influence of societal shifts that encourage outward acceptance even if personal preferences may differ." PS. I was not previously familar with the term "snotring", but I CAN see its clever and appropriate etymology.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-16 16:27:01 +0000 UTC@MB - Especially because @E C is watching here, may I "challenge" you to avoid your more incendiary expressions such as "women that are dustier and drier than Gandhi's sandals". As colorfully evocative as they may be, they are counterproductive and undermines the perception of "stoic strength" that @E C may, in fact, secretly admire and respect.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 22:40:48 +0000 UTC@E C - Alexander is SO young in these early videos. I suspect his youth colors much of his perceptions -- what he does not seem to have considered is the "Daddy Effect": Women just ADORE older men simply BECAUSE they remind them of their father. Factoring in "Daddy Issues" (such as what you yourself describe in your own life), and you likely have a recipe for PROFOUND physical, mental and emotional attraction, dependence and a "desire to fill a void" that can not be understated. Because men can remain fertile into an advanced age, the perception of sexual attraction can easily be maintained. All this is not to say that there isn't the complementary phenomenon of the "Mommy Effect", where a man harbors an emotional desire for a woman "just like his mother", but it is RARELY sexual largely because a woman's fertility is so obviously diminshed beyond a certain point. "Mommy issues" still can add to the effect, but the "wall of fertility" can never really be surmounted. PS. "Perfect gentleman" sounds very much like he's "nice" and "kind". PPS. It seems to me (and others here) that if you were really NOT insecure, then you would not feel the need for therapy, BY DEFINTION. What am I missing? PPPS. It seems as if you again deleted more of your more regretful comments you earlier made in this thread?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 22:32:31 +0000 UTC@MB - Ah. I understand. I guess my own comments were not as censorious, requiring my own responses from Alexander. If he does, of course, I will do as he wishes as well.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-12 01:59:36 +0000 UTC@Joseph: sure. AG contacted me and asked me back off on my comments to that deeply flawed misandrist on here boring us with the tedious and contradictory snippets of her life story (whether fact or fiction). Given that this is AG's place of work and source of income for his family, I respectfully deleted my posts that targetted ridiculing her decrepit efforts to shame men while also vainly attempting to find attention, validation and counselling from strangers in the forum. Also, I deleted some personal statements I made about myself. It was a timely reminder that there is little merit in debating fools, as they drag one down to their level and then beat one with experience.
MB
2024-08-09 04:16:22 +0000 UTC"Reeeeeeeeeeee... believe all wamen. We're priceless, just becoz. we were born women." Funny how this is all too often claimed by women that are dustier and drier than Gandhi's sandals... women so deeply flawed as to have flagrantly discarded their solitary inherent value I.e. to bear children.
MB
2024-08-08 22:24:20 +0000 UTCThe snotring is an instant dq. When I see a woman with a snotring I can not take her serious at all. It tells me she is mentally disturbed for starters.
Sgt Pepper
2024-08-07 16:21:31 +0000 UTC@MB - Can you better articulate the reasons for your own self censorship?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-05 07:54:12 +0000 UTC@Eric: yep, that's the kind of cheap shot expected of you. I deleted the messages out of respect to Alexander Grace. You should try self-censoring your smugness from time to time.
MB
2024-08-03 19:19:14 +0000 UTC2:00 This is what men do with steroids, in showbiz this is what actors do with stun doubles, what musicians do with the playback performances, in pols this is what candidates do with 'their' programs. We live in a fantasy twisted world and vast the majority don't even realize it.
ATH-YF
2024-08-03 03:41:49 +0000 UTCI’ve watched a good number of his videos, I think she is on someone’s hook or “alpha widow” as you seem to say 😅
Alisha
2024-08-03 00:17:19 +0000 UTCThe second lady on this clip disgust me. She's riding that simp wave full on, shamelessly bragging how much she enjoys exploiting others. For my own sanity I usually ghost those kinds of clips, that's how toxic they are.
ATH-YF
2024-08-03 00:09:14 +0000 UTCOnly more data about her could tell if she's an alpha widow. Hoe_math has made recent content about this situation his "Stuck" video is one of them.
ATH-YF
2024-08-02 23:55:29 +0000 UTCThat is my personal observation and conclusion as well. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 17:26:20 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Wow. I hadn't noticed. But, is the expression just "emotional" or is it actually "emotionally unregulated" -- a sign of low "emotional intelligence"? I won't ask you who it is, but I will try to figure it out myself. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 17:19:19 +0000 UTCDespite not being a woman, I can still observe how women react to different men and talk to women about it. And I've definitely noticed that men who are confident, are considered more attractive, whereas being arrogant doesn't help. Now, it is fair to say that arrogance is punished more in women (in terms of attraction).
Nick Van den Broeck
2024-08-02 14:06:43 +0000 UTC@Joseph - It appears someone else has deleted whole swaths of embarrassing messages. I think someone on here is much more emotional than E C.
Eric Linden
2024-08-02 11:06:36 +0000 UTC@E C - I guess in a very real sense ALL emotional women ARE trolls of a sort. Until this very minute that never occurred to me. Nice catch! 🙏 I learn so very much from you!
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 08:14:56 +0000 UTC@E C - Well ... you joke unpredictably, lie unreasonably, throw tantrums indiscriminately such that you have to apologize and/or delete whole swaths of embarrassing messages. I work with the evidence I'm given. 🤷♂️
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 07:41:57 +0000 UTC@E C - Sounds like it COULD just be your insecurities masked as bravado.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 05:43:02 +0000 UTC@E C - I see. Is this another joke? You DO seem to often hide your true feelings behind humor and gaslighting.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 04:37:29 +0000 UTC@E C - It may be difficult, but you need to let go now.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 04:02:31 +0000 UTC👍
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 02:37:49 +0000 UTC@E C - Remember, you are (or at least WERE) here to learn about men. Crude or not, men (including @MB) are human beings, just like yourself, and not "rodents". I would like to encourage you to avoid increasingly incendiary language. It only encourages a continuing arms race of insults. Practice being a lady and gracefully bowing out of this silly conflict. 🙏
Joseph Omega
2024-08-02 02:12:44 +0000 UTC@E C - I can see why you would feel hurt, but why the word "traitor" though? To whom? To you? To women? To the larger group here on Patreon? Is it not conceivable to you that I SIMULTANEOUSLY genuinely care about you, about women, about @MB and about men? Earlier you have claimed that you've come here to "learn about men" (despite later to paradoxically claim to want to preserve their "mystery"?) -- not to complain to, nor be validated by, them. The generic male attribute you claimed to be universally attracted to was "stoic strength", so appreciate that this is a "male space" that you've entered, hence the rules of engagement have been set by the target audience. If you wish to be always "treated kindly", then perhaps Manifestelle may be a preferable forum for you. Lashing out just makes you look desperate for attention and/or validation from the very group you so often malign. Not an "adorable" look for you.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 22:19:03 +0000 UTCNeither masculine or feminine confidence include anger or bitterness. Masculine confidence is attractive on men. Feminine confidence is attractive on women. If all you are is surface, that’s all you see in others.
Eric Linden
2024-08-01 15:05:19 +0000 UTC@E C - Ironically, Bitter RED pillers AND Bitter BLUE pillers share the one thing in common.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 04:45:01 +0000 UTC@E C - You need to take yourself a little less seriously. 🥲
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 04:30:39 +0000 UTC@EC: how does it feel allowing me to live in your head rent free? (B.t.w. it's rather dull in here... and there's a rancid smell of sour milk).
MB
2024-08-01 04:26:35 +0000 UTC@MB (and @E C) - In the spirit of "teasing retorts", I'm tempted to ask you two to "please get a room"! 😂
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 01:28:46 +0000 UTC@Alisha - This concept of "cope" is new to me. Short for "coping" (mechanism) it seems, but somehow used in a derogatory fashion. Like many of these new memetic labels, it seems to me to lack much nuance and foster unnecessary reductive name calling. Don't we ALL "cope" in some way or another, and about one thing or another?
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 01:22:29 +0000 UTC@Alisha - I believe you said you were from Scotland? Well I'm from the US. Maybe the social contagion has not yet peaked in your neck of the woods. Lucky you. Also l live in the suburbs of a metropolitan area, so wokeness is well developed. I've also spent some time in the Greater Toronto Area in Canada, and things are arguably even WORSE there. I was under the impression that Europe was not far behind in their "progressiveness". Is Scotland an isolated case over there? I'm curious though: Can you describe those aspects that keep you "anti feminist but not exactly pro feminist"? What are the specific ideas that you get? Do you follow my objection to the very premise of Feminism as an ideology that does not automatically recognize the existence of an equally basic "Masculism"? In addition, I, cannot really say I have ever been "poor" to the extent that you describe, so our "lived experiences", may indeed be QUITE different, helping to explain our distinct assessments of "female crazy".
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 00:50:57 +0000 UTC@Aisha - As these exchanges quickly become quite multithreaded, I find it useful to preface our posts with the name of the person to whom one is directly responding.
Joseph Omega
2024-08-01 00:46:17 +0000 UTCAh yes, I remember those days, good times 😅❤️
Alisha
2024-07-31 15:56:04 +0000 UTCFair enough 😅 I don’t really believe in any pill but there is value from the both of them. But in a marriage if you were unhappy for many years, would you still stay even if there was no chance of things changing for the better?
Alisha
2024-07-31 15:47:33 +0000 UTCWell then the debate is at and end. Also, that is fine obviously, it was more to understand the your opinion perspective, I am not trying to give or receive therapy. I think the interesting thing about this Patreon is that people come from different countries, ages and backgrounds and those things tend to shape peoples perceptions so I do tend to ask people if they are comfortable sharing but if you’re not then that is understandable
Alisha
2024-07-31 15:45:00 +0000 UTCFor those of you who don’t know, this Patreon, before changing its name to “Alexander Grace” was called “Red Pill Interviews.” It has its start in the red pill before the red pill went astray.
Eric Linden
2024-07-31 15:43:43 +0000 UTC@MB and @Eric Linden - I did not hear (nor imply) EITHER of you saying that you "trawl the Internet". I believe when @Eric Linden used the word "we" he was just choosing inclusive language for our gender, rather than specifically referring to his OWN behavior. Recall he implored us (as a group) to "Stop it!"
Joseph Omega
2024-07-31 14:23:56 +0000 UTCMB admits it. He spends his time trawling the internet observing other men.
Eric Linden
2024-07-31 14:07:22 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Well said. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-07-31 04:04:05 +0000 UTC@Nick Van den Broeck - I too may agree, but unless you are one, you may not be qualified to assess the attractiveness to a woman.
Joseph Omega
2024-07-31 03:48:45 +0000 UTC@MB - But do you DISAGREE with what @Eric Linden said? 🤔
Joseph Omega
2024-07-31 03:45:05 +0000 UTCThere is something bumpy going on in tge later part of the video when she speaks the women view of things, like the mic sits unstable on the table. Check that for next video please.
Tord Pettersson
2024-07-30 02:09:18 +0000 UTCBeing humble makes women more attractive to men. For that reason, most men are humble. But on first impression, it backfires for men. Women don't see it the same way. Men who are humble seem to women to lack confidence. People treat people like they wish to be treated, and people try to impress the way they would be impressed.
Eric Linden
2024-07-30 01:26:05 +0000 UTCWell said Alexander! I don’t know why I am such a skeptic though about the woman who you think is great, she is only saying the things she is saying because she probably still likes him and thinks there is a chance. I get that people speaking badly about exes is a red flag but speaking overly positive like that also seems like a red flag too.
Alisha
2024-07-29 22:29:58 +0000 UTCGood salient point on learning our lesson of what is good for us. I consider this to be a feminine spin on Alexander's past point of having a problem with being a poor judge of character.
Mark Bryski
2024-07-29 14:49:34 +0000 UTCPointing our the sawdust in my eye, while there is a log in yours. Hypocrisy much?
MB
2024-07-29 14:39:44 +0000 UTCBoth men and women are causing this problem with women. I see men simping all over the internet. When we tell them their latest tattoo or piercing looks good (when we actually don’t find it attractive at all) we feed the problem. When we congratulate them showing their bulging muscles (we do like toned, but not bulging) we contribute to their delusion. Even simping men can’t bring themselves to encourage the long nail extensions; but I do hear men telling them they have an interesting design, or match their shoes or clothing. Men, stop it! Even clicking the like button goes to their heads, and they don’t even know it is you.
Eric Linden
2024-07-29 14:37:40 +0000 UTCI think there's not that much about this conversation which is gendered, actually. A guy boasting "I'm so hot, imagine being the girl who lost out on me, that would suck so hard" would definitely trigger a disgust response in me, personally. Confident men are attractive, but they don't go around boasting.
Nick Van den Broeck
2024-07-29 13:33:49 +0000 UTCAlexander I hope you would consider starting a locals page? Much better in my experience over there
Thomas Kirchner
2024-07-29 12:07:18 +0000 UTCWhen a man boasts, it invites challenge from other men. Said man will quickly be served a healthy plate of reality sandwich if he can't back it up. When a woman boasts, she gets that all-so-tiring "you go girl" from her fellow femmes, freely given, often undeserved, and seldom challenged. Bragging rights apply to things that are earned, not things with which one is born.
Hyperion
2024-07-29 09:44:56 +0000 UTCIt amuses me that the vast majority of women continue to believe that they're 'the prize' to men, many many years after they've smashed face first into 'the wall'. Men age like wine... women age like milk.
MB
2024-07-29 08:05:33 +0000 UTCFor women there is a fine line between confidence and delusion. For men it is a line between confidence and arrogance.
Eric Linden
2024-07-29 05:25:35 +0000 UTCHere is the irony....boasting is a sign of insecurity...."... people brag for many reasons, including wanting to be liked, feeling insecure, missing empathy, having a pride or inferiority complex, or wanting to be the center of attention. People can act in better and more genuine ways if they understand these factors."
Daniel L Chin
2024-07-29 04:57:00 +0000 UTC
