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Thangalaan - Teaser | Chiyaan Vikram | Pa Ranjith | REACTION!!!

Thangalaan - Teaser | Chiyaan Vikram | Pa Ranjith | REACTION!!!

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I agree one of his best artistic creations, he even agreed that he felt very free while making the movie๐Ÿ˜‡ They started to watch for review,Korbin hated it ๐Ÿ˜’ so they stopped watching. I guess you do need a bit of cultural reference for eg. The first scene about Ilayaraja and Nina Simone or the honor killing! Natchathiram nagargirathu is my second favorite movie of Ranjith after Kaalaโค๏ธ

Divya

Natchathiram nagargiradhu is another wonderful movie from the director. Should be a watchalong.

Anisha Kamal

Aditi , No! you did not offend me ๐Ÿ˜Š it is interesting and nice to see different views, so no you hve not offended me at all๐Ÿ˜Š

ThiruWilliams

I am not minimizing your experience with the word, thankfully I grew up outside of india where the word exists in a different context so maybe we have different perspectives on the word itself, I always think of my appaatha who used to flinch when the word appears.. again I am sorry if I offended you..

Krishnaa

Hi Aditi thanks for expressing your opinion on this,by stating that the word remain dictionary does not mean we have given permission for others to use it against us, but it is to let the world know that this word originated due to the plight of our forefathers and even current generation. It was used against us to make us feel like human filth and do not use it anymore as it is dehumanizing and derogatory. As a person who was abused with the word paraiyan time and time again while growing up, I hope one day rest of the world realizes that it is a very abusive and traumatizing word and not use it as a normal word in conversations and text. I am always open to listen to others view and perspectives, and just like you mentioned we all have our own opinions on any given subject, you have yours and I have mine just like many others I know ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ’™

ThiruWilliams

ThiruWilliams: While you have your opinions on this matter, others like me have a different one.. we have to be loud in our opinions and I donโ€™t think we have to explain why we feel the way we do.. I hope you understand what Iโ€™m saying ๐Ÿ–ค๐Ÿ’™

Krishnaa

ThiruWilliams: My Appaatha would speak about giving people permission to use words that hurt us. Born and raised near kozikode she met and fell in love with my Appaappa when he visited her town in Kerala during his activist college days as a Parayar communist who followed Periyarโ€™s teachings.. ( I want to write their love story maybe one day) ๐Ÿ˜Š I am sharing her story to say that I have to disagree with your wish to leave the word that uses us and our name to describe unwantedness and rejection alive in the dictionaries. Dictionaries are constantly updating to add new words so why canโ€™t they update older words to reflect their violence? Or better still remove them from a completely by not including them in the school curriculum! Like my appaatha used to say we should not give them the permission to use words that hurt us and I want to add that to it by saying my generation are more empowered and we should insist on reclaiming our name by refusing to let it be used by our peers, educating those around us about the origins of the word. Instead of just wishing it so. Like some one said in an earlier comment, we have to do the labor ourselves to resist the word and sometimes it begins with us insisting itโ€™s removal from space and places that give people permission to use the word. I hope I didnโ€™t sound rude, I just wanted to share my thoughts on this issue which were different from yours ๐Ÿ–ค๐Ÿ’™

Krishnaa

The white actor is Daniel Caltagirone. Bhardwaj Rangan (Galatta plus) has a interview with him around this movie. He calls him parallel lead in the movie.

Nitin Jain

Hi Thiru,It never occurred to me that you were doing it, I am glad and appreciate that many of us can get to hear your opinion and view .โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™

Divya

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ThiruWilliams

Please do not mistake the intent of my comment as using the Dalit card. I just wanted to make it clear that my perspective is coming from someone belonging the community, I wanted to make myself clear and dont want any one to feel otherwise. Thanks๐Ÿ’™

ThiruWilliams

Thank heavens Reva you aren't familiar with the word ๐Ÿ˜‡ yes i watched Fandry and found it to be gut wrenching and as real as reality could be which makes it even more painful ๐Ÿ’”. I make it a point to watch movies made by creators like Pa. Ranjith,Manjule, Ghaywan,Mari Selvaraj. Also i became a huge fan of PS Vinoth Raj even though he directed only made one movie Pebbles which was sent to academy awards for 2021 and unfortunately dint get short listed. Please do watch it if you are interested , it is streaming in Sony Liv.๐Ÿ™‚ I will now stop setting trap for you to watch Tamil movies before you find out lol ๐Ÿ˜‚

ThiruWilliams

I do not know the word and heard it the first time.. but I do understand it struck a chord somewhere Nagraj Manjule is one of my favorite directors. With lil budget and amateur actors, he has created engaging cinema while showing mirror to the society.. I dont know if you all have watched fandry.. if not, do watch.. it shakes you up.. Thank you for suggesting.. I will watch Pa Ranjith movies๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ™

Reva

Hi Reva , thanks to your question that this discussion started here ๐Ÿ˜Š it is a very good quality to ask questions and try to understand subjects we arent aware of ๐Ÿ˜Š also glad that people like Divya are also attempting to read about the history, not that I am looking for all of us to do so. Please do watch Ranjith's other movies you will find it very interesting coz I remember your comments about loving Manjule and Gayvan' body of work and also liking Apte's episode in MIH2 . Sorry I dont mean to impose on you Tamil movies. i usually observe other Patreon's comments here( when I am bored ๐Ÿ˜‚) and I have a feeling that you would like Pa.Ranjith as a director based on your few comments ๐Ÿ™

ThiruWilliams

@maya as a Dalit Paraiyar i do not believe that the term "paraiah" should be removed from the dictionary, it should remain similar to the N word in the dictionary. I just wish that world recognizes that Pariah is as derogatory and highly dehumanizing as the N word or even worse coz it is not even considered derogatory in this modern day and age . Doing away with the term would do nothing to the Paraiyar community pride, instead it would help many conveniently forget what our community went through and is still going through. But acknowledging it as a derogatory term for what it stands for will be a step in a right direction for building a healthy society ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ™

ThiruWilliams

Interesting.. i look forward to this movie โ˜บ๏ธ

Reva

Thank you Divya! Great info :) This is why I ask questions on Patreon.. and ppl like you take the time out to type and share knowledge.. I have not watched KGF movies bcoz I generally am not interested in that genre.. dont even know if its the same KGF ๐Ÿ™‚ please kindly overlook my ignorance ๐Ÿคช This looks very good .. vikram look is killer ..shedding all inhibitionz

Reva

That is a great read Divya, I bought it once the news came out about the movie. I checked with my family back home about it and no one knew about this sub sect under Paraiyars So i hunted and found this book as the other books are authored by the westerners..

ThiruWilliams

Sorry for the essay answer response ๐Ÿ˜… I recently bought the book Kolar Gold Field unfolding the untold by Dr.S.Srikumar ๐Ÿ˜

Divya

Hello Revati, Thangalaan refers r to people belonging to a subcaste under the dalit caste in Southern India named Paraiyars who were village guards.As the word Thangam also means Gold in Tamil ,here i think it is kind of word play as guard of gold. This is a period movie about the oppressed who were went through hell in KGF.I am not sure if you are aware the word Pariah (outcast) is derived from the word Paraiyar . With Pa.Ranjith we know it will be charged with proper research and the politics of oppression.

Divya

Wow!! Vikram..๐Ÿคฉ What does the title mean?

Reva

Itโ€™s actually crazy to me how Vikram has only won one national award (for Pithamagan) in his career cuz I could name at least 3 more films where he deserved one.

Api

Please also check out this announcement video for his upcoming film โ€œChiyaan62โ€, its really cool ๐Ÿ”ฅ https://youtu.be/C5JuRbz9ptM?si=_zcvc24keOJp9z9y

Josiah Mahendran

The badass girl in this teaser, is Malavika Mohanan. She was the lead actress in the Vijay movie 'Master' (directed by our fav Lokesh).

SR Kumar

The white actor is British actor Daniel Caltagirone !

Divya

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265730/

Kannan N

Chiyaan is the nick name of the character Vikram played in the movie "Sethu" which is the comeback film for Vikram after being out of the scene for so long. From then on he is titled "Chiyaan" Vikram. Funnily enough in the movie Sethu there is an elaborate scene where everyone tries to find the meaning of the word "Chiyaan".

Kannan N


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