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Ed Farrell

Amongst other reasons, apart from what y'all said, the banning of TikTok is because younger generations are bypassing mainstream media and seeing uncensored footage of the Palestinian genocide. They're forming their own opinions and speaking out, unfiltered by the propaganda that traditional media often uses to downplay or obscure actions that would reflect poorly on Israel. The whole 'China' excuse for banning TikTok feels more like a convenient scapegoat to silence these voices and maintain control over the narrative.

Mario Paulino

To be clear, I don't think this view should be THE view, just the main one. Many groups have other definitions, but as most of us in the USA at least are subject to laws, rules, infrastructure, etc. that result from dominant views, I want the dominant view to be more helpful for more people than it currently is. I think there is value in these separations in our current dominant social context (modern science, partiarchy, language with gendered pronouns, and such). Happy to hear counterpoints. The goal is to help people be happier and less mistreated, so if there's something that I'm wrong about factually or am missing, lmk.

Emily D

I wish the normal view in dominant western society was to separate sex and gender, and to realize the whole time that categorization is not reality and that they overlap (Steve mentions brain sex). A trans woman can be male. A nonbinary person can be male or female or intersex. It bugs me that Steve conflates the gender of woman/man with the sex of female/male frequently in this audio. Some survey designers in science also do this, and the only support I've seen for that is that they think respondents conflate the two, so it can cause problems/confusion to separate them (don't quote me on that, I might be misremembering). I believe this view—to separate sex and gender in our language and separate them mostly in thought— is in line with what Steve says here and would help, a lot. We can affirm someone's gender (their social identity) without denying their physique/physiology. Some people really wouldn't like this stance, because, like Steve brought up, some really want to make a trans person (athlete, especially) congruent on sex and gender. But those can be trans (i.e. male woman, female man) without issue because sex and gender have mostly separate domains and relevance. I don't want a doctor to assume I'm intersex because I'm nonbinary. I'm very female. I don't want a doctor (or sports league, if I did sports) to assume I identify as a woman because I'm female. People who are intersex can have whatever gender identity. Separating the two is just easier, yet so many across the spectrum of ideology/belief don't like to separate them. That kind of baffles me. And to say one more important thing about pronouns. Those are separate too. I'm nonbinary, female, she/her. The gender and pronoun don't match for reasons that are specific to me, and it doesn't cause an issue because gender identity and pronouns serve different functions, for me. For others those need to match. And that's okay. I think people just need to get used to this way of thinking about it.

Emily D

Science vs recently did an episode o. Social media, and their conclusions seem to disagree with most of you points in social media: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ebOIwkquvFIoXXZ0Tu2iM?si=ZqbX7C3xSj2leNTxw0ID3g What's your take?

Rajika Kuruwita


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