How Bad Is It?
Added 2025-02-24 11:56:58 +0000 UTCJust over a month into Trump's second term, Matt and Sam offer their thoughts on where we're at—and, to be blunt, the assessment is fairly depressing. They take stock of the troubling truth that Pete Hegseth's confirmation reveals about Trump's hold over the Republican Party, new FBI director Kash Patel's conspiratorial children's books, the state of the conservative legal movement, the right's relatively recent embrace of unbounded executive power, what the Democrats can do to fight back, and more.
Sources:
Pope Francis, "Letter of the Holy Father Francis to the Bishops of the United States of America," Feb 10, 2025
Jonathan Swan & Maggie Haberman, "Power, Intimidation and the Resurrection of Trump’s Support for Hegseth," New York Times, Dec 12, 2024
Gabriel Sherman, "'They’re Scared Shitless': The Threat of Political Violence Informing Trump’s Grip on Congress," Vanity Fair, Feb 19, 2025
Jude Joffe-Block, et al, "How Kash Patel has Used Children's Books and Podcasts to Promote Conspiracy Theories," NPR, Dec 10, 2024
Heidi Przybyla, "Leonard Leo Used Federalist Society Contact to Obtain $1.6B Donation," Politico, May 2, 2023
James Burnham, Congress and the American Tradition (1959)
Comments
Tell a story. Bring people in to tell theirs. Democrats will win. So fucking go out & find a pugnatious union bastard who owns guns to raid the helm and steer this US Titanic a mere 2 degrees port side to miss the iceberg and literally change history. 2 degrees.
mark o'hare
2025-03-20 02:07:20 +0000 UTCDems only offer reluctant incrementalism. Given their current pace of change, they might be able to rebuild the institutions by the end of the century.
Gabe
2025-03-16 00:19:03 +0000 UTCWhat wars? It’s not like they are making cuts to defense spending? They’re seemingly just trying to make compliant & uneducated workers & soldiers.
Gabe
2025-03-16 00:08:37 +0000 UTCCurrent dem messaging is so predictable from people who, during the Biden admin, kept saying the economy is “actually doing really well” to people who are suffering. These fucking people.
Kori Sparks
2025-03-11 16:22:32 +0000 UTCIt's been about as bad as my worse expectations domestically, Trump/Musk are behaving in a thoroughly illiberal manner and I don't think it's crazy to think they'll go after election laws in some sense, but I'll admit I didn't think they would also alienate longstanding allies in a month-everything is so erratic it just seems to be headed to some kind of complete disaster.
Erik Wirfs-Brock
2025-03-10 04:41:09 +0000 UTCJust getting to this, but it’s funny to think about… The type of extreme stuff you describe they’re doing here, or implying that institutions may act as law enforcers to Trump’s rule, or that a kind of Brown Shirt cadre could attack Senators, etc., reminds me of the #resist liberals/MSNBC stuff we all kinda kept at distance and rolled our eyes at from back during Trump 1.0. We‘d be like, “sure, he’s bad but there’s no full there there.” Now I constantly, like this episode, find myself saying something that I can hardly articulate with words different from “insane”, and it drives me nuts. It’s like, as I’m talking I think I must sound crazy, BUT I’M DESCRIBING ACTUAL THINGS AND ACTUAL LIKELY SCENARIOS. I’m like a conspiracy sounding guy now, BUT IT’S ALL TRUE and something I’m reading in mainstream media. I wonder if anyone else feels that way. Uncanny.
Adam Jaime
2025-03-08 18:39:38 +0000 UTCI did read. A really interesting book and agreed on how it relates to how deep this can go.
M. Fromage
2025-03-05 01:48:51 +0000 UTC+1 vote for making this one public. Would like to share around.
Alyssa Plese
2025-03-04 04:39:46 +0000 UTCNaomi Klein's newest book really gets at the heart of the reactionary anger around covid policies if you haven't read it.
Hannah Vig
2025-03-02 23:30:45 +0000 UTCThought of Sam and Matt’s interpretation of Trump’s approach to war today during his wounded narcissistic rant at Zelensky, “You’re gambling with World War III!”
Nicholas Haggerty
2025-03-01 00:49:43 +0000 UTCThe "set up" for the podcast is trying to understand the right. If listening has helped you understand the nature of Trump and Trumpism by tracing their discontinuities with the fusionism of the "postwar conservative movement," I think that's vindicating our approach. Episodes 3 and 4 of the podcast actually were titled, "The Death of Conservatism?" (Matt)
Know Your Enemy
2025-02-27 02:57:15 +0000 UTCIt dawns on me that the “conservative project” as constructed by the setup for this podcast is dead (or at least on permanent vacation). Trump is not a conservative. He has killed whatever bulls—t Buckley was up to. It is not really a thing anymore. Trump leveraged the remnants of it (the federalist society and the anti abortion movement) and then stole working class, minority concerns. We are in a new place. I would love a reimagine from this group (or really anyone?) looking at what an actual liberal response to Trump looks like.
Jojo Hamburger
2025-02-27 01:31:15 +0000 UTCOk! ✌️
Know Your Enemy
2025-02-26 20:34:07 +0000 UTCOh come on now, if you're going to call yourself the 'leftists guide to conservatism' then you can't also say you're not savvy, one's gotta be a lie, ya know. You both do a wonderful job with breaking down the sociohistorical aspects of their movement, and you have fantastic guests (as well as being good hosts). I just do not understand the disconnect. "I'm surprised the thing that they said they were going do it is happening' isn't a wellspring of hope in navigating the actual landscape.
desdinova
2025-02-26 18:27:45 +0000 UTCI don’t claim to be particularly politically savvy, but admitting when your sense of the likeliest outcome was a few degrees off is not as embarrassing as acting like you can never be wrong. Anyway, thanks for listening. -Sam
Know Your Enemy
2025-02-26 18:20:46 +0000 UTCYeah bro but AI bro. We don’t need science, we just need AI. We don’t need bureaucracy, we just need AI. We don’t need news, we just need AI. We don’t need people, their lives and loves, their complexity, their chaos, their potential for creativity and innovation—innovation that could lead us to a new and better way of structuring our world than the chains of capital. If we just made people more and more in the image of AI, into perfect predictable machines—perfect predictable machines whose predictable behavior we can maximally monetize, machines in whom we have eradicated the impulse to ever strive for anything new and radical and different, and so who are guaranteed to maintain the structural stability of our power ad infinitum because of their perfect predictability—then the number will go up more. Bro.
Maxine
2025-02-26 18:19:34 +0000 UTCAs always, thanks for your work Matt and Sam. Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but why not use the firing of federal workers as a springboard to make the case against at-will employment and the precarious nature of employment under capitalism? (along with everything else you said)
Casey Buchholz
2025-02-26 17:18:04 +0000 UTCI'll be honest you're description of Hakeem Jeffries as just an empty suit is part of my worry and paranoia about the Democratic Party. That it's just a lumbering empty suit with no real goals except the maintenance of the status quo. That is why they won't do anything, because shaping the narrative may require making promises they do not care to be responsible for fulfilling.
John Tee
2025-02-26 13:59:25 +0000 UTCI have no idea how you can say you're at all politically savvy and also be surprised right now. Not being willing to admit the reality of the situation is pretty embarrassing.
desdinova
2025-02-26 12:49:06 +0000 UTCIt's possible to apologize for something even if you aren't wholly culpable. They got played for suckers, but there were enough people at the time who saw through it and said it, and were promptly ignored. I think not taking the criticisms seriously is worth apologizing for.
desdinova
2025-02-26 12:33:25 +0000 UTCLove you, Matt & Sam. But we cannot build back better the Democratic Party as the infrastructure of resistance. It’s preposterous to imagine. It sounds like you recognize this in your hearts, but reason that there’s nothing ready to replace the Dems, which arrests any honest reckoning to a latent state. This very reasoning is why there is nothing to replace them with. We have made quicksand the irreplaceable real estate on which we build our homes.
Benjamin Pletcher
2025-02-26 07:47:00 +0000 UTCWe should probably start but not using marketing terms like Gen Z tbh. It feeds into the social media and divisionary politics of made up things that only serve to grift people in some way. But if we can’t do that, that’s fine but talking about an entire age cohort like this is isolating and demoralizing. I people in their 20s and 30s to be significantly more friendly anyway. I think you are makign huge narratives that have little to back it up friend. Like it’s kind of crazy to think social spaces can’t exist with social media. People in general still love being around other people. I think thinking like this is actually the exact symptom of being way too online in your general discourse. The online left are the ones who need to put down the phones and talk to their peers.
Montez
2025-02-26 04:48:02 +0000 UTCCrudely put and I think you do a disservice to the history-centered theme of this podcast but we are grown and, well, you do kind of have a point.
Montez
2025-02-26 04:43:44 +0000 UTCAssuming you’re a leftist, you also presumably think *Republicans* are committed to the capitalist neoliberal status quo, and yet corporate lawyers tend to be Democrats. In my personal experience, this is also true of federal prosecutors. (These are just factual observations; you may draw from them whatever conclusions you wish.)
Taylor Washburn
2025-02-26 04:09:07 +0000 UTCYour last sentence in parentheses made me laugh haha. Of course corporate lawyers are democrats, corporations and democrats are both totally committed to the capitalist neoliberal status quo!
Addison
2025-02-26 03:42:39 +0000 UTCWhy should they apologize for believing what he said in his campaign? Should the voters of PA apologize? He lied, the people who believed him aren’t responsible for that
Addison
2025-02-26 03:39:18 +0000 UTCLaws only matter if they’re enforced. He’s the wealthiest man on earth AND is working alongside a demagogical president, he can do whatever he wants
Addison
2025-02-26 03:38:14 +0000 UTCOther countries will figure out the things we don’t. We don’t have uniquely capable researchers and universities (anymore)!
Addison
2025-02-26 03:35:01 +0000 UTCCompletely agree. As I've seen others point out elsewhere, it's all too reminiscent of when the Supreme Court decision to abolish Roe was leaked ahead of time, and Dem leadership STILL seemed caught off guard by it. Same old story, time after time - party leadership caught without any plan to avert a disaster they've been fundraising off of for years - and to my mind a point has been reached where it's cost them ALL credibility. They need to be worked around, not worked with.
Peter Aidan Byrne
2025-02-26 02:09:12 +0000 UTCA minor point, but Sam is incorrect that federal prosecutors tend to be Republicans. The vast majority of Assistant US Attorneys I know are Democrats. They aren’t likely to be leftists, of course, but elite lawyers are far more Democratic than the public at large, and AUSAs are no exception. Plus they’re lawyers who have chosen to spend years in public service. A very Democratic cohort.
Taylor Washburn
2025-02-26 01:44:02 +0000 UTCI'm not sure the Dem establishment has anything they're actually WILLING to market at this point, though. They're the party of the status quo, for better and for worse, but they can no longer bring themselves to make a serious, material case for even the *best parts* of that (rapidly crumbling) status quo, because they've grown too afraid of upsetting those who benefit most from the worst parts of it (and will likely benefit *even more* as it crumbles). That isn't a marketing problem, imo.
Peter Aidan Byrne
2025-02-26 01:01:23 +0000 UTCMatt’s closing observation about Covid and how it hardened the right is deeply troubling. Combine this with the Wild Faith episode in October and you can see that the cruelty and anger will continue for a long time. They don’t care about inflicting pain, they actually enjoy it.
M. Fromage
2025-02-26 00:29:09 +0000 UTCAs someone who went to a Straussian PhD program, I greatly appreciated Matt's use of the phrase "pit beneath the cave" near the end of this episode!
Alec Arellano
2025-02-25 23:51:12 +0000 UTCThey’re not just old; they’re lazy. Putting the bureaucracy back together will require a lot of hard work, a lot of hours. And many of our congress critters just want their 3 day weekends … 😒 Sad to say, but working weekends is kind of a hack against our government …
e.lonnrot
2025-02-25 23:26:51 +0000 UTCThere is nothing at all brave about loving the idea of war, Atlantic opeds and drone warfare. Nothing brave about the DC establishment’s eagerness to stir up wars, that politicians and the elites grooming them into involving the US in foreign conflicts, are not willing to fight and risk their lives in themselves. Nothing brave about goading proxy countries and minority groups into beefing with our imperial rivals on our behalf. Nothing brave about exposing them to ruin, destruction, and death only to betray them in the end, throw them under the bus, and strip them for parts (as is happening to Ukraine right now). Not so much braver to make ordinary Americans pay economic consequences or have to be one day sent to die overseas because of those bad choices that benefit the wallets and egos of a small number of idiotic assholes. Unlike Bush-Cheney loving, amnesiac Democrats, Trump knows that the wars of the past few decades have been fiascos and are rather unpopular for good reason. That is not a symptom of “cowardice” but of political savviness, which does not make him substantially antiwar nor even “isolationist” at all beyond rhetoric and a conflictual approach to some of the legacy of Biden's foreign policy. He only represents another faction of interventionism that has different priorities. Just like liberal appeal to human rights, democracy, and international law are also just rhetorical. The US does not need to join any club of bullies, it was already the world’s number one bully. Trump is only more blunt about it in contrast with liberals cosplaying as the good guys in Star Wars while they facilitate holocausts in Gaza and other antics.
Paul Lemaire
2025-02-25 23:10:53 +0000 UTCThe Democratic Party is a giant lumbering kaiju karen that wants to talk to the manager.
erik w bjorke
2025-02-25 21:53:32 +0000 UTCI can’t make sense of what you’re saying here
Carine Zaayman
2025-02-25 19:57:48 +0000 UTCI swear I almost mentioned that during the "conservative legal movement" part of the conversation, and totally agree. (Matt)
Know Your Enemy
2025-02-25 19:43:20 +0000 UTCI really don't think what I said was criticism—I even said that I respected her because she clearly has principles, and I never said she shouldn't have resigned. (Matt)
Know Your Enemy
2025-02-25 19:40:16 +0000 UTC“I shouldn’t be superstitious, that’s not a Christian value,” I say as I eat the literal bread turned to body and drink the literal wine turned to blood of Christ once a week.
Blue Myself
2025-02-25 12:17:54 +0000 UTCI try to do this, but I still can’t pry away the “but efficiency - but saving money” arguments. There is plenty of money. It’s just being hoarded while we waste time making sure some abstract someone doesn’t get a single misspent penny.
TradescantiaHaven
2025-02-25 12:16:32 +0000 UTCFor me. It's the near guarantee that we will lose the next 2 wars in my lifetime.
Kevin
2025-02-25 10:31:21 +0000 UTCDoesn't all this make you wonder at the purpose of this podcast? That the ideas of the right were actually worthy of consideration and evaluation, rather than immediate dismissal as retrospective, self-serving beards for stupidity, vicious stupidity? Stupidity, vicious and pervasive, is surely the mark of American life. You don't know your enemy at all.
Matt Gately
2025-02-25 07:55:49 +0000 UTCI love this show, but could Matt apologize for his endorsement of John Fetterman, a fake progressive and zionist?
Lauren Kay
2025-02-25 04:15:15 +0000 UTCCredit to Bob Borosage
Rick Perlstein
2025-02-25 04:09:34 +0000 UTC(Delivered)
Rick Perlstein
2025-02-25 04:09:07 +0000 UTC"Rob the postman so you can complain that the mail never gets diverted
Rick Perlstein
2025-02-25 04:08:51 +0000 UTCIt feels bleak out here. But this pod is always a refuge of clear-headedness and lucidity that keeps me sane enough to not check out completely.
Mike Seay
2025-02-25 03:36:08 +0000 UTCYeah Trump escalated every conflict we were involved in during his term and threatened to nuke Iran. But he’s anti-war somehow. Let me know when the wallet inspector drops by.
Dylan Stephens
2025-02-25 02:51:10 +0000 UTCI had a coworker put on administrative leave on Friday with the eventual goal of her being fired because her job description included the words “environmental justice.”
Chad Bailey
2025-02-25 02:35:00 +0000 UTCElon Musk is not the Administrator of the U.S. DOGE Service. But he is in charge of DOGE. This is called how to appear legal but not being legal.
Chad Bailey
2025-02-25 02:33:22 +0000 UTC“Even voting for the right is doing nothing for it. It is only expressing to men feebly your desire that it should prevail. A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men.” -Thoreau
Chad Bailey
2025-02-25 02:30:55 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/MQ-6fpuVeFA?si=DtB5n-ZZaIV0nZYY
Matt Gately
2025-02-25 02:07:43 +0000 UTCA couple lefty Catholic posts about this time. https://substack.com/@chadbailey291184/note/p-157711297?r=4j5qp&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action https://substack.com/@chadbailey291184/note/p-157710937?r=4j5qp&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Chad Bailey
2025-02-25 02:05:39 +0000 UTCJon Favreau’s “the wilderness” podcast after the first Trump election kind of came to the same conclusions as you guys about telling a different story, and building a movement from it. Hell, Sam’s favorite podcaster Ezra Klein has Democrat guests on pretty much weekly advocating the same thing. But if you can get elected as not Trump without having to stake out a moral and policy position… if you don’t have to make promises that you’ll later be held accountable for, why would you? I think a good number of them are still making the bet that Trump will defeat himself. It’s a bad bet.
DJM
2025-02-25 01:30:12 +0000 UTCMy boss, a safety manager at the VA, got fired because of the is and has been on the news recently. There is a lot of anger in the federal government, people are not happy
Kevin Price
2025-02-24 22:17:11 +0000 UTCIt’s the research that really keeps me up at night. Almost every technological or medical breakthrough is the fruit of exploratory research 20 years before that would have been too unprofitable to pursue but for government investment. The damage gutting it is going to do is very profound, but also so abstract and far in the future that I don’t see how the people responsible will ever pay a political price. What won’t we have in 20 years that we otherwise would have because of cuts made today?
Seed Oil Sommelier
2025-02-24 21:16:43 +0000 UTCWe’re gonna need a bonus episode specifically about how to cope with all this
Tim Combes
2025-02-24 20:52:56 +0000 UTCI guess the question is can we rebuild robust, adult, pro-social civil spaces while the internet in its current state exists. And I would argue no, it must be largely destroyed/regulated.
Wesley M
2025-02-24 20:48:16 +0000 UTCJust popping in to say as a Gen Z cusper that I have noticed an enormous shift in the friendliness/sociability of the Gen X and Boomers in my life based on their social media use and the news they consume. Gen Z and millennials definitely have a smart phone/internet usage problem, but I also find that we use the internet and social media much more for learning, communicating, and building online community, while most of the older adults I know are using it to interact with people they already know and confirm their worldview (sharing DJT Jr. memes and Fox News posts or whatever). I totally agree that we need more of our community-building to translate to the physical world, but I think it’s disingenuous to say this is an anti-social problem. We want to be social, but we’ve become adults in a period when civic life is all but dead and we have no time, money, or energy to rebuild it because we have to spend our entire lives working to get by. Working people increasingly have less time outside of work (and less spare money) and there are very few established groups/institutions remaining to plug into if you do have the time and money; the internet makes it possible to feel connected on your lunch break/late at night and for free. It’s not a generational social problem, it’s a systemic problem created by neoliberalism that has grown into neofeudalism. The algorithmic siloing also isn’t helping, but I don’t think the issue is that we are just more anti-social than other generations.
Addison
2025-02-24 20:41:10 +0000 UTCWe need an offline, anti-internet, lefty counter culture. and I say that aware of the irony that I was partially radicalized into leftist beliefs online
Wesley M
2025-02-24 20:17:54 +0000 UTCRe: neighborliness/people believing that lefty political goals are possible - I’m not sure this is possible when mass social media and internet use has basically made everyone anti-social. Gen Z especially has been really messed up by this. Basically I think fascism is just going to keep getting stronger and fueled by the anti-social impulses the internet has created
Wesley M
2025-02-24 20:16:02 +0000 UTCWanna buy a bridge?
Ranger Rick
2025-02-24 18:59:47 +0000 UTCThe limited FedSoc types I’ve interacted with do not blindly defend everything Trump and Elon do, but they share the MAGA movement’s apocalyptic view of Dems as anti-Christian, anti-Constitution, communist, etc. Until that worldview loses influence, I have a hard time believing the conservative legal movement will provide meaningful resistance to MAGA.
Jonathon S
2025-02-24 18:05:20 +0000 UTCHe has literally formally proposed the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, capitulated to Russia in their own war of imperialist ethnic cleansing in Ukraine, and floated the idea of bombing Mexico. Meanwhile Israeli tanks are rolling into the West Bank and Israel is entrenching its occupation in Syria, all with Trump’s approval. None of this is ‘anti war’, and all of it will lead to more violence and instability
Reggie Debris
2025-02-24 17:44:12 +0000 UTCThe comment towards the end about the loss of life during the pandemic not being enough to move people on Trump hit hard, especially as I am reading Sarah Jones's DISPOSABLES right now. A very appropriate amount of righteous anger in that book.
Scot Sedley
2025-02-24 17:44:03 +0000 UTCI have to push back on the criticism of Sassoon’s resignation as meaning that there is one less principled person in the US Attorney’s Office - she had no choice. To not resign would have compromised her and eviscerated her integrity. What she and the other US Attorneys did was extremely admirable in my opinion. It is the complete lack of this type of integrity within the elected officials that is the problem we face.
Lorna Spencer
2025-02-24 16:51:04 +0000 UTCTL/DR I don't care if it's pathological, whatever keeps Trump from being anti-war is better than everything else. When it comes to National Security and foreign policy I literally see no difference between Democrats and republicans. I still remember Obama campaigning as the anti-war candidate. And then reading the book you recommended reign of terror and just how much Democrats have helped to keep the war in Terror on going. And then just seeing how Biden just allowed the slaughter and the bombing of Gaza till it's nothing. And then I listen to the talk shows and the first thing out of the supposed liberals mouth is well I know we need to cut government spending but... when they should be talking about how people are overworked and how there are employment shortages in the federal flight Association and in medical positions and just everywhere. And how all jobs lift all boats.
Rhianna79
2025-02-24 16:48:35 +0000 UTCThe reason the Dems aren’t following Matt and Sam’s perfectly reasonable and straightforward advice is that they agree with Trump and Musk’s policies and sympathize with bosses’ efficiency arguments when workers protest layoffs. The core problem is ideology, and it’s not going to be changed. We tried.
Marshall Steinbaum
2025-02-24 16:42:41 +0000 UTCListening to the anti war part of Trump. Whatever keeps him from starting a war is good.8
Rhianna79
2025-02-24 16:41:33 +0000 UTCI believe Trumps aversion to war is because he’s a bully, which is to say a coward. He is scared of Putin and Xi and scared of getting into a proxy (or any other kind) of war with them. He’s trying to join their club so they can bully everyone else. Bone spurs.
Eleanor Mayrhofer
2025-02-24 16:33:22 +0000 UTCThat's what I think about. We don't have national leaders at the moment. It's up to us. We're tired but I think we're not stupid.
Sam D.
2025-02-24 15:50:53 +0000 UTC“I don’t want to know about this.” - Sam @ 00:23:46… on children’s books about King Donald.😂
Little Beruit Dweller
2025-02-24 15:50:09 +0000 UTCAppreciate the question. I don't really know what I would want them to say. Hoping that they would echo your sentiment that they way the press folded on this is utterly pathetic and sickening. And that it really does mean that the American right wing is fully fascist at this point.
Garett Smith
2025-02-24 15:33:10 +0000 UTCDems have lawyer brains, and republicans have marketing brains. The dems need to learn how to market
Tim Olson
2025-02-24 15:16:25 +0000 UTCAnother cause of the modicum of resistance we’re seeing from conservative lawyers is professional norms. I’m a lawyer, and I see these norms at work on a daily basis. Unlike political or democratic norms, they are relatively well enforced. If you don’t act like a “respectable lawyer” it will hurt your career
Andrew K
2025-02-24 15:00:33 +0000 UTCThe bullet point list asking what I did last week drove me up the fucking wall. Elon should be deported
Peter Carlen
2025-02-24 14:59:26 +0000 UTCThat's been my same thought. How to make them the party of the people and not the billionaires.
Rhianna79
2025-02-24 14:54:07 +0000 UTCHonestly I can even trust if should Democrats gain back power after DOGE has destroyed the government, thar they will meaningfully put it back together
Julia
2025-02-24 14:15:45 +0000 UTCI know its the thumbnail, but you guy's didn't talk about the Nazi salute at all?
Garett Smith
2025-02-24 14:01:45 +0000 UTCTo give you all some optimism: I work at the NIH, and used to work at the CDC. My family may not love or respect either institution, but they certainly love and respect me. This musk stuff has made political conversations easier. I just give them info. New employees getting fired, my new manager possibly getting fired, bullet point lists about what I did this week, etc. My point is even if dem leadership is asleep at the wheel, there are thousands of us doing what they aren’t
Derek Hart
2025-02-24 13:48:41 +0000 UTCI agree that the Democrats should be coming up with some sort of coherent plan of opposition, but they should have already had some semblance of a plan ready!! they spent the last year of the election bleating about project 2025, calling trump a fascist Nazi, and declaring themselves the saviors of democracy. but they seem to have taken zero time to imagine their response the the very real probability of a trump presidency. they don't care.
Rai
2025-02-24 13:40:21 +0000 UTCIf it gets really, really bad If it ever gets really, really bad Let's not kid ourselves If it's really, really bad https://youtu.be/MDjcQpJ3GsE?si=faVy5amTx90-S5L2
James H
2025-02-24 13:25:59 +0000 UTCSuper cringe reference but the idea of pinning our hopes on the conservative legal movement is really giving Thor: The Dark World, Loki saying “you must be truly desperate” vibes
Tim Combes
2025-02-24 12:57:38 +0000 UTCThe word for the Republicans you are looking for is cowards.
Kyle Reesman
2025-02-24 12:38:04 +0000 UTC
