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[GREAT DANCE CREW SEASON 1] EPISODE 2 PART 1
Added 2024-08-04 07:29:36 +0000 UTC
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I agree that gatekeeping isn't the way to go. I think my overarching point was pulling more at the complexities of the soft power that America has on a global scale, while simultaneously demonizing the contributions that BAs made or just flat out erasing them as the contributors. (Just to clarify, other countries do this as well, but I am mainly emphasizing the huge scale that America holds as a soft power). That is what makes BAs super sensitive about this, almost irrationally so. That's more so where I'd place the direct origin for these concerns black americans have. They don't really point towards discrimination history for this specific topic like segregation, US black codes, or jim crow laws (although these did build up a more defensive spirit in black americans). Am I saying it's right to think this way? No not at all, but I do think black americans get misunderstood by those in their own country and those outside of it. the black american experience is very nuanced and complex with its history and has created a group of black people that are very skeptical and distrusting of others (which is understandable if you're familiar with it). So going back to your original point, on a global scale I think cultural exchange and cultural infusion would help the human race in the long-run. One of the biggest voices in modern culture feels uncomfortable with this due to the confines of all the things that happened in their country. That's a big issue for this goal of cultural infusion. I get where they are coming from, but it will be a slow progression that honestly will rely on the future race relations in US pop culture for BAs to be okay with it. for example, If there's a non-black rapper that becomes popular in the US and then 3 years down the road says hiphop culture is dangerous and ruins the youth, black americans will tense back up and say "this is why we shouldn't let people in our culture". If things like this don't happen in the future, then it will tone down. Of course it's kinda silly to assume the rest of the world would be disrespectful in this way, but most people gain social beliefs and values in the context of the space they live within, and then apply it to the world. All BAs don't feel this way though. I am mainly referring to those that do hold these beliefs, and why they would feel this way. So do I think there's anything wrong with Santa's hair? No. lol
Ellie
2024-08-06 19:52:51 +0000 UTCi understand when they coming from .but i dissagree with their actions .i'm black too, from france and like many black in this countries i faced numerous racial discriminations .but that doesn't mean we should gatekeeping the culture from others. look at bruce lee , he wanted to spread his culture around the globe despite the fact he was discriminated as asian.and at the same period some chinese kung fu master refused to teach kung fu to non chinese(white blacketc...) cause they are victim of racism in usa and they feels if they teached them martial arts they would appropriate the culture and using against them.and they hated bruce lee for teaching kung fu to non asian.so this type of reasoning is nothing new, the black americans who complain about braids by non black are very similar to the chinese master who refused to teach kung fu to non asian.fast fowards who was right the chinse gatekeepers or bruce lee? bruce lee of course his legacy speak for himself.and speaking of bruce lee here is pertinent cause hip hop, since his inception in the bronx in the 70s, takes heavy inspiration from bruce lee and kung fu movies, from music to dance fashion etc..... lots of hip hop dance moves , like breakdancing, were inspired by kung fu movies which make the argument about "appropriation" and "exploitation" useless.so at the end of the day they are wrong gatekeeping,under the pretext your are discriminated will not help at all.only the spread of the culture will help.
the master of kpop
2024-08-06 11:09:49 +0000 UTCAs a black american, I don't mind when people of other races wear braids. However, I understand why others may feel this way. America has a long history of taking creations from black americans and rebranding it as something else for someone else, especially in the arts with music and fashion. For example, most people don't even know that rock n roll came from black americans. This is just one small instance of many. To have the bulk of your country's culture be contributed to well.... not you, made black americans very sensitive towards others using creations that came from their culture. It adds flame to fire that black americans identify as black americans and not an african country. So the only culture we have is the stuff made from black Americans (and traces of preserved african culture from slavery i.e. hairstyles), which is fairly new if you look at the ages of cultures from around the world. The issue though is that the world isn't America. So BAs take this mindset and apply to people outside of America who don't mean to offend anyone. I say this to hopefully get people to understand why my people act this way. And it goes further than race. Each ethnicity has a history that curated values, beliefs, concerns, and fears that are unique to that ethnicity. In this case, it makes sense that black americans and black europeans won't share the same opinions on cultural taboos, because they didn't have the same history. Again, I don't mind others wearing braids, nor do I agree with this gatekeep-like mindset. I just think it's important for us to understand where people are coming from, even within our own race.
Ellie
2024-08-05 18:26:40 +0000 UTCAh.. GOtcha.. Completely agree that better translations are in order for us haha
Jessica Holyfield
2024-08-05 04:32:08 +0000 UTCAH YOU ARE RIGHT.. HOW DID I FORGET...
Jessica Holyfield
2024-08-04 21:08:01 +0000 UTCActually Well Lai was on SDC. Remember the call out that Xiao Ji did in season 4 when he said he needed to use the bathroom? That was Well Lai he called out.
MJDansfield
2024-08-04 20:58:58 +0000 UTCyea even just casual translations are kind of weak. when santa is reviewing Morgan and is saying like oh “at the beginning u were like i like flowers” but he said “hua hua” which means to draw bc previously Morgan had mentioned it. but coincidentally in chinese “hua” only once is flower just lack of precision with the editing and translations
Kevin
2024-08-04 18:49:24 +0000 UTCI know right?? I mean SDC has been pretty decent in the recent seasons and I see the overlap but BLESS IT I swear 😂
Jessica Holyfield
2024-08-04 18:46:58 +0000 UTCa part of me wishes that the dancers themselves could be the ones to describe their own dances rather than the editor/translator bc they really just be putting anything up there.
Kevin
2024-08-04 18:40:30 +0000 UTCOmg I love this 😂 Santa has shown that he is considerate just by this interaction we saw alone 😂 I’m actually curious about the mechanics of his hair and it gives the appearance that he has dreads on the tail end! Is that just an extension for this episode or permanent?? And he low key is matching with David and his dreads 😂
Jessica Holyfield
2024-08-04 17:09:11 +0000 UTCSanta has a deep appreciation for the culture of hiphop, he is not coming at this from a view of mocking or disrespect, but from a view of the love of the culture. He has stated many times on Chinese shows (that the censors then remove because any mention of culture makes the CCP itchy) that hiphop is a culture and it needs to be respected as such. Liao Bo the MC for SDC said that Santa was talking about these braids and how excited he was that he forgot about what to wear on the show. 🤣
MJDansfield
2024-08-04 16:54:00 +0000 UTCAs an American saturated in this culture I would like to agree with you here on this topic!! Every time I watch one of these cases where people are upset about a hair style or an outfit style, most of the time it is people who are not of that culture trying to “advocate” for it. I also see how people can be upset about these choices when there isn’t enough information to go off of on whether or not the intention is that of appreciation or alternative motives. One BIG reason I feel that some Americans have a sensitivity to the hair style topic is because of the neglect in advocating for demographics who are the primary users of the styles in big things but people are willing to wear things because of their “coolness” or trend potential from these same communities. So taking the “good” (products) and deserting the “not good” (people). Also some of these hair styles can be seen as “ghetto” depending on the demographic but “style choice” to others which adds to this sensitivity. Segregation also ended less than 60 years ago here so the manipulation of media domestically is still VERY much there. I agree whole heartedly that if we are to be an advocate in one facet (hair) we should be an advocate for all (synthetic hair industry) I am in a position of wanting to learn and understand from ALL the sides because I see the hurt people feel on one end but the appreciation of culture on another (my profile picture says it all 😂😂) and it means a lot that you took the time to continue this conversation!
Jessica Holyfield
2024-08-04 13:28:34 +0000 UTC!!!!!!!! disclaimer this is a sensitive topic so if you dissagree with we that fine but stay polite in your answers don't insult me i post my opnions,even tho im far from being the only only one thinking like this!!!!!! regarding santa braids, the people who complain about non black having braids are mostly americans.im black and from europe and its was never a problem when non black using african braids.for exemple a few years ago adele the singer was at nothing hill carnival a famous carnival celebrating carribean culture and she wore bantu knots.black americna criticize her while black folks in uk defended her saying nothing with her wearing bantu knots. the americans (regardless their race) who complain about braids weared by non black are virtue signaling, and do rarely what they preach.they complain about non black wearing braids cause its "exploiting black features" (like kardashian) while they said nothing regarding the blatant exploitation of asian hair of poor asian countries with the wigs ,which many black female wore and these wigs not matching their texture hair(which make the "protective style" argument dead). people can do what they want with their hairs as long as your not racist toward the race you take influence from. black folks in europe and africa don't care too much about white folks wearing braids we have bigger problems to fight.
the master of kpop
2024-08-04 09:53:31 +0000 UTC
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