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Censorship and what happens next

Hi guys!

So, you might have probably heard about it, there are new Patreon Community Guidlines. 

They specify " As part of updating the Community Guidelines, we’re taking a clearer stance on some fringe areas of Adult Content. Over the past few months, there’s been a lot of discussion among our Trust and Safety team about how we can better articulate how we evaluate certain areas of content. It became evident that we needed to outline a clearer stance on some fringe adult content. With today’s update, we’re also being more clear about specific categories of fictional erotic content that Patreon cannot be used to support (including incest, bestiality, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence). "

Basically, Patreon now can not be used to support people who make stories about consensing adult walking animals having sex and getting into all sorts of trouble. (Seriously, the actual irl action is not even illegal in the place where i live).

This means, any day now, I can be blocked and asked to either remove or censor my comics. 

I will totally understand if you decide to remove your pledges because you do not want to support Patreon anymore. Censorship sucks.

On my side, I see lots of amazing people who came here not because of Patreon but because of me (I bet most of you don't care about Patreon) so I will continue to draw comics for you till i get banned or till I have no one to support me.


Thank you all!

Censorship and what happens next

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Yep, that might be an option too.

Ratcha

Another option is to set THIS Place for cute SFW arts and a Discord for us to "talk and chat" that also happens to have others of your works on it.

Edward Sutherland iv

I wish there was a way the devs at FurAffinity could take a look at creating a Patreon-like system dedicated to all things furry. Of course they'd have to arbitrate payments (and keep in line with tax laws and all that other crap) as well as creating the backend stuff. For now it seems like Patreon is the best bet though. Let's just hope they lighten up on you and other furry artists.

Micah Nightwolf

I'll try to go with 1, if that will be an option with Patreon. Basically if anything ever happens, they'll block me first and then we will decide on how to continue working, be it posting on other website and linking to patreon or anything else.

Ratcha

Thanks, I really appreciate it! Hope your financial situation changes, it sucks to have no money :)

Ratcha

I withdrew all my pledges not because of this but because I am tight on money currently. I would continue to support you and the few others I had pledged to if I could and will when I am in a better position financially. Your work is amazing and fuck censorship.

Cheat, get patreon to pay and post stuff on other websites. 2nd option Go fro other websites. 3rd option do like black kitten when one of his patreon stopped supporting his comic. Ask for donation. You put a page and say $20 next page, but you make the donation collective. Some people think it suck, but it work. Choose and tell us.

Darth Revan (The first one, and unique one)

Yes, I've checked it and it's basically a "donate monthly" button. I can't give rewards or even post comic pages there

Ratcha

pretty much only got a patreon account because of you, aparently there is a similar service known as hatereon its... aparently a place where even hate speech is allowable... aka its anti censorship supposedly.

Thats a load of crap i dont see anyone getting hurt by it. This is lame im sorry ratcha hope it works out.

I hope everything will be fine :)

Ratcha

Thanks!

Ratcha

That sucks! I started pledging here because I like getting the notifications when you post something new. :/

Pickles

well I hope that you are in the clear ratcha because this comic I really enjoy because it's fun to read. It also gives me something else to do with my other wise empty day. I'd still support your comics anyways even if you did get a block here...

Dekrosna

I hope too :)

Ratcha

I have Furaffinity here <a href="http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ratcha/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ratcha/</a>

Ratcha

now, i haven't bin able to fined a link to any other page i can fallow you on, witch is really shitty because i like your style! maby post thos if its at all possible?

I think you'll be fine. Was talking with some other creators about it and it seems it's only targeting non-fictional stuff for the most part. Part of their conversation: "We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline. As a strong commitment to child safety, we will work with law enforcement whenever we come across child exploitation. We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex. We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon." --- Nothing so far falls into that though, unless the poxxxen theme pics fringe on some of it like with Asmodeus and Raziel. But otherwise I think things should be alright. Also read the small bit at the end. Survival stories or fiction is allowed. They even put the book "Lolita" as an example for it, which is a fictional work depicting sexual content of a minor. Pretty much, I don't believe it will be an issue If you want a more direct example, I wrote something for a votation art piece on another Patreon and it explicitly called out that it was rape in the writing, but Patreon staff approved it all the same since it was a fictional work. All in all, I think these rules apply more to real life depictions.

PonE-Sharp

There are some, but they are not even close to Patreon in functionality. They literally allow you to create a page with a description and a "pledge" button. No posts, no uploads, no comments, no nothing. Basically a Ko-fi. but with a monthly payments

Ratcha

I wonder if there is any other platform similar to patreon.

rada660

Yes, they specify any fictional erotic content.

Ratcha

Does it count towards furry anthro porn? I thought it only applied to real life porn and bestiality.

Fixed the typos x3 Thanks a lot! I hope stuff will get more clear soon.

Ratcha

you added an "it" at the end and the "Than" which is actually Thanks v: Besides that, I'm basically here till the bitter end, I'm sure there will be a different way for us to support you in a way so I hope to hear from it soon. Keep it up and do what you do, we support you 100% :D

Drex


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